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PatrickforO

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24. If we want to win elections, we must talk about kitchen table issues.
Thu Aug 24, 2017, 12:19 AM
Aug 2017

Independents outnumber both Dems and Republicans.

To get Independents to vote D, we must address the things they care about -

- I'm afraid I'll get laid off.

- I'm worried about my health insurance and about health care in general.

- College sure is expensive. Hope my kids will be able to go without getting into horrible debt.

- Every time I go to the grocery store, the stuff I buy costs more, by my paycheck still stays the same.

- I worry about clean air and clean water.

- I want good schools for my kids.

- Why does childcare have to be so expensive?

- How can I find any kind of meaning in life when I work as hard as I do?

Get it? Kitchen table issues. Learn to talk compellingly about these things, and we will sweep elections. It isn't about Hillary or Bernie (though you can probably guess who I supported in the primaries): it is about our message. It is about staying on our message. It is about using the right words. Did you know that 'Medicare for all Americans' polls WAY better than 'single payer?' Stuff like that.

And they aren't 'job killin' regulashuns.' They are life-saving guidelines.

Ah, enough. For some of the posters above, I don't think this post is 'flame bait.' What I do think is the Dem party is being pretty slow in terms of getting in step and on message. Do we want to win elections or not? Because if you win elections, you can reverse all the sorry shit Trump and his criminal administration have been foisting off on us.

Please, let's get our shit together as a party. Because it doesn't look to me like that has happened yet. And it needs to, for all our sakes.

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Post removed [View all] Post removed Aug 2017 OP
This is flame bait or fly paper. You should delete. As far as the future goes/ most of us have bettyellen Aug 2017 #1
Blaming Bernie for what happened zentrum Aug 2017 #2
No- there are threads on polls from voters during the GE. The GE. And talk about who should run next bettyellen Aug 2017 #3
Yes, they are about the GE. zentrum Aug 2017 #13
I totally agree with you that we need fresh faces. Ken Burch Aug 2017 #18
Actually, you stating that his presence did not cause the result is opinion & not factual. Honeycombe8 Aug 2017 #23
Cite the evidence please-that's new & I'd like to read it. Thanks. snowy owl Aug 2017 #32
True that !!! His candidacy was a Necessity in this corporate country.... alittlelark Aug 2017 #4
His was a good candidacy. HRC's was good, too. But neither was "necessary." nt Honeycombe8 Aug 2017 #26
I voted for Clinton and love bernie Sanders Abu Pepe Aug 2017 #5
Give it a rest redstateblues Aug 2017 #6
That's the way Democracy works! MadCrow Aug 2017 #19
You're right...the people saying Bernie shouldn't have been allowed in the primaries Ken Burch Aug 2017 #22
Must be math wizards. dogman Aug 2017 #7
I, too, believe Bernie's campaign was inevitable. secondwind Aug 2017 #8
I think if Warren had run, Bernie wouldn't have. Warren DeMontague Aug 2017 #14
You're correct, of course left-of-center2012 Aug 2017 #9
Bernie represents the direction the party must and will take onit2day Aug 2017 #16
Another thing people don't seem to get is, primary eligibility is determed state-by-state I think. Warren DeMontague Aug 2017 #10
Can we please just move on? Pick better candidates & messages, learn from mistakes, flibbitygiblets Aug 2017 #11
Both sides are interminably boring now. WinkyDink Aug 2017 #12
Cosigned phleshdef Aug 2017 #17
I agree with this OP 110%! Stonepounder Aug 2017 #15
Villaraigosa is a joke nini Aug 2017 #21
Lololol. You re-fight the primaries while telling others to stop doing the same nini Aug 2017 #20
I've never refought. Not once. Ken Burch Aug 2017 #25
If we want to win elections, we must talk about kitchen table issues. PatrickforO Aug 2017 #24
Who said Bernie should be barred from the primaries in my OP? applegrove Aug 2017 #27
Sorry, but that's "refighting" primaries too. Eom Hoyt Aug 2017 #28
No. It's only refighting the primaries if you don't accept the result or malign our nominee. Ken Burch Aug 2017 #31
I agree. SergeStorms Aug 2017 #29
The problem isn't Bernie running. Let him run It's letting non-Democrats vote in our primaries. Duh. TeamPooka Aug 2017 #30
Nobody said he should have been barred from the PRIMARIES. But nice try. Lil Missy Aug 2017 #33
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