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tymorial

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63. I find it useless to argue with people who accept emotionalism, supposition

Thu Aug 24, 2017, 12:43 PM

Aug 2017

And preconceived notions over reason. When presented with fact and evidence they often engage in denialism and become further entrenched. Rather than examine all information to reform their opinions they embrace their original point of view. Humility is not a character trait of these individuals. Something must hit them close to home in order to shift then from their world view.

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How to argue with Trump supporters? [View all] kentuck Aug 2017 OP

Fuck them all....I have no use for people who excuse those who coddle Nazis. Moostache Aug 2017 #1

Hear, hear Hayduke Bomgarte Aug 2017 #10

I read these people on Facebook.... kentuck Aug 2017 #37

Naa... mgardener Aug 2017 #54

Don't waste your time. Dulcinea Aug 2017 #43

You can't "fuck them all" Roy Rolling Aug 2017 #45

You have not been paying attention to politics since about 1984 have you? Moostache Aug 2017 #83

Hay Moo, Ima with you! 👍🙂 sprinkleeninow Aug 2017 #89

+1 MILLION! raven mad Aug 2017 #95

When Trumpy is indicted and the House gets serious about impeachment, Eyeball_Kid Aug 2017 #2

One saving feature: Dale Neiburg Aug 2017 #7

Tell them he reminds you strongly of those dogs that run away Hortensis Aug 2017 #3

I disagree... Wounded Bear Aug 2017 #4

Lol. That Russian woman who writes about living in an authoritarian Hortensis Aug 2017 #16

Yep all that other stuff is a cudgel to beat Democrats when they can use it. Hassin Bin Sober Aug 2017 #81

He doesn't go to church and he speaks ill of America. kentuck Aug 2017 #5

He does that all the time, they don't care... Wounded Bear Aug 2017 #18

They do not care! sprinkleeninow Aug 2017 #86

They don't care mainstreetonce Aug 2017 #6

That's one they don't care about. kentuck Aug 2017 #9

We are encouraged by various Resistance groups to engage them in polite, respectful conversation to BigmanPigman Aug 2017 #8

They believe nothing from the mainstream media. kentuck Aug 2017 #11

A 2X4 across the bridge of the nose would be most satisfying. gordianot Aug 2017 #12

That might work! kentuck Aug 2017 #13

Let Trump do it. Turbineguy Aug 2017 #14

I have absolutely no interest in communicating with them - nor, I'm sure, they with me EffieBlack Aug 2017 #15

The Righteous Mind by Jonathan Haidt... HopeAgain Aug 2017 #17

Good post! kentuck Aug 2017 #32

Do you have 1st hand experience with this? ecstatic Aug 2017 #19

Nod. Smile. Back away towards the door, nodding and smiling struggle4progress Aug 2017 #20

Do that, then RUNNED AVAY! sprinkleeninow Aug 2017 #88

Religion, religion, religion. Funtatlaguy Aug 2017 #21

I politely mentioned that to a couple Trump supporters in my family who are very religious. progressoid Aug 2017 #24

They don't care! They're indoctrinated in the Cult of Drumpf. sprinkleeninow Aug 2017 #90

People need to know that the Fundie leadership knew Trump was not Christian and was Dark n Stormy Knight Aug 2017 #96

A lot of Trump supporters are unreachable. Willie Pep Aug 2017 #22

Is this a serious topic? No, really. I find the very premise incomprehensible, as in: WHY THE HELL WinkyDink Aug 2017 #23

Because they beat your ass in the last election? kentuck Aug 2017 #26

Bwahaha! Oh, and REVEALING PRONOUN USAGE. Thank you for that "your" and not "our." WinkyDink Aug 2017 #28

Thanks for the CAPS! kentuck Aug 2017 #30

I think you have to wait until they're ready to listen gratuitous Aug 2017 #25

It is true that if it makes the libtards unhappy, then it makes them happy. kentuck Aug 2017 #27

Edited the title of the post: kentuck Aug 2017 #29

I don't talk to Trump voters MrScorpio Aug 2017 #31

YOU "argue." I'm with HIM: WinkyDink Aug 2017 #33

I recommended that post! kentuck Aug 2017 #35

Some will never... Mike Nelson Aug 2017 #34

I think a very salient issue that would connect with Trump supporters at this moment... kentuck Aug 2017 #36

True... Mike Nelson Aug 2017 #56

Also, another argument that may be more effective with Trump supporters. kentuck Aug 2017 #38

How did comparing records on Viet Nam work our for Kerry rufus dog Aug 2017 #40

It was not Kerry's record in Vietnam... kentuck Aug 2017 #42

and they were able to be manipulated rufus dog Aug 2017 #49

You simply don't engage them rufus dog Aug 2017 #39

You may be right? kentuck Aug 2017 #41

they operate on an emotional reaction to fear rufus dog Aug 2017 #46

If you can keep them away from the voting booth. kentuck Aug 2017 #47

Another argument: kentuck Aug 2017 #44

Point that out and they will just point to "liberals" who are out of shape..... ollie10 Aug 2017 #52

And you point out... kentuck Aug 2017 #55

It won't make any difference to them ollie10 Aug 2017 #76

you tell them he golfs too much..... ollie10 Aug 2017 #48

Or you remind them that he drives his cart upon the greens... kentuck Aug 2017 #50

They will then resort to their wild card..... ollie10 Aug 2017 #74

Don't Doug the Dem Aug 2017 #51

I don't. Waste of energy. They'll have to figure it out on their own. JHan Aug 2017 #53

That's your decision. kentuck Aug 2017 #58

I suppose..Infowars and Faux News kind of qualify JHan Aug 2017 #71

It is a cult ollie10 Aug 2017 #57

The rally in Phoenix looked like a cult of personality. kentuck Aug 2017 #59

Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you Motley13 Aug 2017 #60

Or as someone said: kentuck Aug 2017 #62

yes Sirree,,,, Cryptoad Aug 2017 #64

There is no arguing with a Trump chump Orrex Aug 2017 #61

Daniel Patrick Moynihan: kentuck Aug 2017 #65

Sadly very true (nt) Orrex Aug 2017 #70

I find it useless to argue with people who accept emotionalism, supposition tymorial Aug 2017 #63

It was disturbing to hear someone wishing for McCain to die... kentuck Aug 2017 #67

DON'T niyad Aug 2017 #66

"are you a sexual predator as well? why else would you vote for one?" niyad Aug 2017 #68

Thanks for suggestions. We need to figure this out if we want to change. Glimmer of Hope Aug 2017 #69

or tell them--- azureblue Aug 2017 #72

No point engaging them Va Lefty Aug 2017 #73

Charles Pierce said it best. muntrv Aug 2017 #75

Don't argue with them in the first place Proud Liberal Dem Aug 2017 #77

"Start uppa the bubble machine!" 😄 n/t sprinkleeninow Aug 2017 #93

Get in their face and shame them Fluke a Snooker Aug 2017 #78

I find your general premise strange. grantcart Aug 2017 #79

Don't. broadcaster90210 Aug 2017 #80

I've found that it's useless to engage them in discussion.. Permanut Aug 2017 #82

they're like cockroaches.... fantase56 Aug 2017 #84

Take the long view - show them the hand and dismiss them underpants Aug 2017 #85

The members of Cult 45 aren't worth wasting time on Mountain Mule Aug 2017 #87

This my stand today. Skidmore Aug 2017 #91

They don't care about those other things either oberliner Aug 2017 #92

Their shit bubble is impervious. Nothing penetrates their shield of crap. I appreciate what you kairos12 Aug 2017 #94