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In reply to the discussion: Science is the Only Objective Truth [View all]Romulox
(25,960 posts)106. These people going on about "ONLY truth!!!!" can't even define the word "truth"!
"I can say I saw many brilliant minds there, but also many petty, self-serving minds as well."
I can't say I've met too many self-identified scientists who I'd call "brilliant". How is it that I'm the first to bring up the issue of P.O.V. on this thread, if we are amongst such "brilliance"?
Here's a fun little treatment of the problem, from wiki:
However, this traditional view about objectivity ignores several things. First, the selection of the specific object to measure is typically a subjective decision and it often involves reductionism. Second, and potentially much more problematic, is the selection of instruments (tools) and measurement methodology. Some features or qualities of the object under study will be ignored in the measurement process, and the limitations of the chosen instruments will cause data to be left out of consideration. In addition to these absolute limits of objectivity surrounding the measurement process, any given community of researchers often shares certain "subjective views", and this subjectivity is therefore built in to the conceptual systems. It can even be built into the design of the tools used for measurement. Total objectivity is arguably not even possible in someor maybe allsituations. It is, at least, a process replete with uncertainties and challenges (cf. Latour, 1987: 63-79, Polanyi, 1958). One example of an objective idea is in the concept that all perception is relative. In accepting this, one encounters the objective.
Problems arise from not understanding the limits of objectivity in scientific research, especially when results are generalized. Given that the object selection and measurement process are typically subjective, when results of that subjective process are generalized to the larger system from which the object was selected, the stated conclusions are necessarily biased.[citation needed]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Objectivity_(science)
Problems arise from not understanding the limits of objectivity in scientific research, especially when results are generalized. Given that the object selection and measurement process are typically subjective, when results of that subjective process are generalized to the larger system from which the object was selected, the stated conclusions are necessarily biased.[citation needed]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Objectivity_(science)
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Well I don't agree that I've tried to do anything except respond to the statement
vanlassie
Jul 2012
#14
Science doesn't know why kids love the taste of cinnamon toast crunch either
MattBaggins
Jul 2012
#63
It seems to show that once what was considered impossible is actually possible ...
spin
Jul 2012
#72
Science has actually contributed a great deal to our understanding of morality.
LeftyMom
Jul 2012
#84
Semantics; you and I obviously have differing perceptions about the meaning of the word.
Avalux
Jul 2012
#12
Science is open to change when new information becomes available. The people who don't believe
libinnyandia
Jul 2012
#76
Yep. If you look at data over the past 30 years, there is definitely a worldwide trend.
Avalux
Jul 2012
#49
"Beauty is truth, truth beauty," - that is all Ye know on earth, and all ye need to know.
Swede
Jul 2012
#41
Now now, don't hit and run, If you're going to say that as a counter to my post, explain.
Avalux
Jul 2012
#52
There is no such thing as "objective truth"... you know what that statement sounds like?
Warren DeMontague
Jul 2012
#77
Utter nonsense. All observations are ultimately from our SUBJECTIVE P.O.V. The very subjects we
Romulox
Jul 2012
#95
These people going on about "ONLY truth!!!!" can't even define the word "truth"!
Romulox
Jul 2012
#106
What good is believing in the truth of global warming while supporting more arctic oil drilling,
limpyhobbler
Jul 2012
#101