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oberliner

(58,724 posts) Sat Aug 26, 2017, 11:51 AM Aug 2017

Is Trump worse than Bush? [View all]

The approval rating for Bush among Democrats at the end of his term was 6 percent.

The approval rating for Trump among Democrats right now is 8 percent.

I know that the horrors of the Trump administration are fresher and more immediate, but let us not forget those of the Bush administration.

The Iraq War - and all the lying that went with it - is still one of the greatest foreign policy debacles in modern history, one for which we are still paying a high price.

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Is Trump worse than Bush? [View all] oberliner Aug 2017 OP

Yes! FM123 Aug 2017 #1

Yes, and in spades. MineralMan Aug 2017 #2

Which 8% of Dems approve of him? Proud Liberal Dem Aug 2017 #3

It's clear that some people pretending to be Dems approve of him alcibiades_mystery Aug 2017 #5

That is a great point oberliner Aug 2017 #26

Great question oberliner Aug 2017 #19

Margin of error? I don't see one off hand. defacto7 Aug 2017 #86

Margin of error is 3 percentage points oberliner Aug 2017 #141

That's a pretty large margin. defacto7 Aug 2017 #142

Probably the JPR "Democrats" who voted for him. nt stevenleser Aug 2017 #88

Bingo, the alt-left. Also Dixiecrat types. /nt radius777 Aug 2017 #146

Those reagan dems of course madokie Sep 2017 #167

What was Bush's approval rating among Democrats in August 2001? alcibiades_mystery Aug 2017 #4

He's so awful, he (almost) makes me pine for the bush years! femmocrat Aug 2017 #6

Yes! LovingA2andMI Aug 2017 #7

Worse NotASurfer Aug 2017 #8

W was bad, terrible, awful Bettie Aug 2017 #9

Bush was a classic old money, muscular foreign policy Republican. Trump is fascist trash alcibiades_mystery Aug 2017 #12

Bush forced a war that led to the killing over a million brown skinned people oberliner Aug 2017 #28

Do you have a link for that claim? Bradshaw3 Aug 2017 #100

See post 22, nt stopwastingmymoney Aug 2017 #106

I endorse this. Adrahil Aug 2017 #64

Bad intelligence and gross miscalculation Zambero Aug 2017 #71

There were DU posts calling Bush mentally deranged oberliner Aug 2017 #73

Is Lung Cancer Better Than Liver Cancer? JimGinPA Aug 2017 #10

sums it up nicely dembotoz Aug 2017 #74

Trump is like stage IV pancreatic cancer. MrsCoffee Aug 2017 #156

Every now and then I hear people from the Bush administration being interviewed milestogo Aug 2017 #11

Bush may have been bad, but I don't believe for one moment that he was evil incarnate. Different Drummer Aug 2017 #13

I truly don't think Bush is the right comparison. Pope George Ringo II Aug 2017 #14

yes, completely obamanut2012 Aug 2017 #15

We knew what motivated the Bush War for Oil Cabal leftstreet Aug 2017 #16

Cheney was behind Bush's crimes. As a person, Bush was a lazy dolt and ranked low on the crazy scale dalton99a Aug 2017 #17

Bush believed that God wanted him to invade Iraq oberliner Aug 2017 #27

Well, there was also that Project for a New American Century dalton99a Aug 2017 #42

Trump thinks he IS God. n/m RhodeIslandOne Aug 2017 #138

Agree ... LSparkle Aug 2017 #78

"Is Trump worse than Bush?" Hayduke Bomgarte Aug 2017 #18

How many hundreds of thousands of deaths in Iraq? oberliner Aug 2017 #22

/ this. Snackshack Aug 2017 #47

Trump is a fascist, a racialist ideology responsible for genocide radius777 Aug 2017 #148

No argument there, however Hayduke Bomgarte Aug 2017 #50

Understood oberliner Aug 2017 #54

is this ranking necessary or helpful? tomp Aug 2017 #90

"is this ranking necessary or helpful?" Hayduke Bomgarte Aug 2017 #93

sorry for the late response. tomp Sep 2017 #165

I've done that too many Hayduke Bomgarte Sep 2017 #166

No Bradshaw3 Aug 2017 #102

Please. tymorial Aug 2017 #20

Were you alive during the Iraq War? oberliner Aug 2017 #24

I am 40. I stand by my statement nt tymorial Aug 2017 #25

Trump will have ample time to outdo Bush 43 Zambero Aug 2017 #58

Bush was a lot more religiously motivated oberliner Aug 2017 #61

Very true and scary as well Zambero Aug 2017 #72

But he at least didn't believe he himself was God bellmartin Aug 2017 #125

I was a mature adult during the Iraq war and I came of age in the Vietnam war. pnwmom Aug 2017 #118

You are correct sir. Bradshaw3 Aug 2017 #104

Sort of Bradical79 Aug 2017 #21

Absolutely yes! smirkymonkey Aug 2017 #23

Hell to the yes Lotusflower70 Aug 2017 #29

There is no doubt that Trump is staggeringly awful oberliner Aug 2017 #32

Bush sucked Lotusflower70 Aug 2017 #39

Yes. N/T NRaleighLiberal Aug 2017 #30

Didn't think anyone could be - but IMO, yes! 50 Shades Of Blue Aug 2017 #31

There are a lot of similarities between the two oberliner Aug 2017 #34

The Iraq war is a very high hurdle for sure 50 Shades Of Blue Aug 2017 #44

Let's put this in perspective. democratisphere Aug 2017 #33

It's obvious 45 is the worst SonofDonald Aug 2017 #35

Cheney was behind the lies that led us into the Iraq War oberliner Aug 2017 #37

Yes I remember. SonofDonald Aug 2017 #49

We made it past bush somehow, not so sure about trump. And Obama cleaned up a lot Hoyt Aug 2017 #36

There are a million dead Iraqis who didn't make it past Bush oberliner Aug 2017 #40

Yeah, I started to mention Iraq. But Trump is a bigger problem today than bush is today. Hoyt Aug 2017 #46

Worse and here's why Stinky The Clown Aug 2017 #38

Fair points oberliner Aug 2017 #56

Bush never tried to kill millions of Americans by taking away their healthcare dalton99a Aug 2017 #57

good points steve2470 Aug 2017 #62

No kidding. dalton99a Aug 2017 #69

Have you seen Sicko? oberliner Aug 2017 #68

Yes dalton99a Aug 2017 #79

Yes. greatauntoftriplets Aug 2017 #41

Yes! peggysue2 Aug 2017 #43

Bush was really bad but Trump is worse steve2470 Aug 2017 #45

George Bush: 'God told me to end the tyranny in Iraq' oberliner Aug 2017 #53

I think he lied about that, frankly steve2470 Aug 2017 #60

You may be right oberliner Aug 2017 #65

Who the hell are the 8% 'democrats' that approve of Orange Hitler???? workinclasszero Aug 2017 #48

there is NO ONE worse than LOSER 45 Motley13 Aug 2017 #51

Yes, Trump is worse. Not even a close call. bluepen Aug 2017 #52

What about the Iraq War? oberliner Aug 2017 #59

I saw the other 30 times you posted this. bluepen Aug 2017 #63

OK oberliner Aug 2017 #66

Only "30"? Seemed like more. SharonClark Aug 2017 #77

Well, if you want to be literal - it was only 6 oberliner Aug 2017 #81

Give it a rest will you. liquid diamond Aug 2017 #109

He is a war criminal oberliner Aug 2017 #113

Let it go. liquid diamond Aug 2017 #123

It's just a discussion forum oberliner Aug 2017 #132

The problem is that you are comparing the two... potone Aug 2017 #128

That's a fair point oberliner Aug 2017 #131

And Trump when all is said and done may be a traitor RhodeIslandOne Aug 2017 #140

He's the worst president of all time! Initech Aug 2017 #55

At this point there is not much difference between Charles Manson and Donald Trump dalton99a Aug 2017 #67

Yes. He's dumber than bush and lazier than bush. louis-t Aug 2017 #70

Trump is a nasty, ignorant, dumbass but walkingman Aug 2017 #75

By an order of magnitude already, in my opinion. n/t reflection Aug 2017 #76

technically not yet, but give him time. Voltaire2 Aug 2017 #80

Waaaay worse JDC Aug 2017 #82

Hmmm LyndaG Aug 2017 #83

Six of one, a half dozen of the other. GoCubsGo Aug 2017 #84

The difference between shit and dog shit, a choice that no civilized person would even ponder. FreeStateDemocrat Aug 2017 #85

Dumbya was the clown shoes prince of presidents. jcmaine72 Aug 2017 #87

Yes!!!!! nt jrthin Aug 2017 #89

We are judging two different qualities of their presidencies Generic Other Aug 2017 #91

Good points oberliner Aug 2017 #114

Trump is exponentially worse because he is trying to foment a civil war. DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2017 #92

If he hands us a 9/11, yes. Until then, it's not even close. nt ucrdem Aug 2017 #94

Trump has done more damage to the social fabric than 9-11. 9-11 brought us together. DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2017 #95

Yes it worked out rather well for shrub, I'll give you that. nt ucrdem Aug 2017 #96

Trump is pushing us toward a small c civil war. DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2017 #99

Boy do I hope you are wrong about this oberliner Aug 2017 #115

Trumps culture war is obnoxious but the statues are coming down. ucrdem Aug 2017 #161

Fair question, but Trump has only been there for 7 months. DanTex Aug 2017 #97

No shit trump is worse. liquid diamond Aug 2017 #98

A thousand times yes. redstatebluegirl Aug 2017 #101

Message auto-removed Name removed Aug 2017 #103

Hell yes... Miles Archer Aug 2017 #105

Personally yes D_Master81 Aug 2017 #107

The only thing Trump has over Bush is that Trump hasn't invaded a country like Iraq yet. xor Aug 2017 #108

Is shit worse than diarrhoea ? kacekwl Aug 2017 #110

Incredibly...YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ElementaryPenguin Aug 2017 #111

Need you ask? Surely not! oppressedproletarian Aug 2017 #112

A Simple Case of Bad And Worse ProfessorGAC Aug 2017 #116

Bush was an ordinary bad President. Trump is on another planet. pnwmom Aug 2017 #117

Yes Trump is far worse than Bush. The iraq war was a policy faiilure JI7 Aug 2017 #119

America invaded Iraq because the Bush administration wanted a war oberliner Aug 2017 #121

Yeah they believed all the crap about freedom and welcoming with flowers JI7 Aug 2017 #122

Absolutely Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Aug 2017 #120

Bush espoused bad policies. Trump betrays human decency. nt LAS14 Aug 2017 #124

Bush did a lot more than just espouse bad policies oberliner Aug 2017 #130

Yeah, but Trump is a spectacularly awful human being as well. So he wins. LAS14 Aug 2017 #162

CIA torture sites? Abu Ghraib? Falujah? Extraordinary renditions? Guantanamo? Jose Padilla? ucrdem Aug 2017 #126

Some folks seem to have amnesia with respect to Bush oberliner Aug 2017 #129

Kerry and Clinton were ripped to shreds over their Iraq war VOTES. ucrdem Aug 2017 #135

BIGLY worse... I didn't think it would be possible, but it's already not even close bellmartin Aug 2017 #127

Yes, he is. PragmaticLiberal Aug 2017 #133

Yes shenmue Aug 2017 #134

Do you remember the Bush Scorecard of Evil? oberliner Aug 2017 #136

Yes RhodeIslandOne Aug 2017 #137

I really miss Dubya Turbineguy Aug 2017 #139

Yes. Exponentially. CanonRay Aug 2017 #143

Trump is a much worse person, and alarmingly corrosive to the social fabric and our institutions. cemaphonic Aug 2017 #144

Bush was inept and maybe corrupt. Trump is evil, inept, racist and corrupt. Liberty Belle Aug 2017 #145

Bush declared "Marriage Protection Week" oberliner Aug 2017 #150

and Trump is still worse JI7 Aug 2017 #151

Trump is on track to be the worst president in our nation's history. Kaleva Aug 2017 #147

For 8 years... tonedevil Aug 2017 #149

Bush was a dummy MFM008 Aug 2017 #152

isis & destruction of ancient stuff. w still wins. pansypoo53219 Aug 2017 #153

Worse than Bush 43, yes. Worse than Cheney? DeminPennswoods Aug 2017 #154

Yes, Trump is worse. Worse than Bush. Worse than Nixon. Worse than Grant, and maybe Harding. Spider Jerusalem Aug 2017 #155

Why do we do this? MyNameGoesHere Aug 2017 #157

That is a bit extreme oberliner Aug 2017 #159

Yes MyNameGoesHere Aug 2017 #160

Absolutely. Dubya, for all his dimwittedness, had a smidgeon of compassion. Vinca Aug 2017 #158

Are you fucking kidding me with that question? louis c Aug 2017 #163

Yes Gothmog Aug 2017 #164