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45. Here's an excerpt, and a link -- the author is Milton Mayer
Sat Aug 26, 2017, 02:15 PM
Aug 2017

Milton Friedman was an economist, a not very nice one. But that's a different subject entirely.

The details outlined by Mayer are quite different from what we're experiencing now, of course (or at least for now), but I think this should be required reading for every American nonetheless. The whole thing is riveting, and important.

They Thought They Were Free The Germans, 1933-45

"To live in this process is absolutely not to be able to notice it—please try to believe me—unless one has a much greater degree of political awareness, acuity, than most of us had ever had occasion to develop. Each step was so small, so inconsequential, so well explained or, on occasion, ‘regretted,’ that, unless one were detached from the whole process from the beginning, unless one understood what the whole thing was in principle, what all these ‘little measures’ that no ‘patriotic German’ could resent must some day lead to, one no more saw it developing from day to day than a farmer in his field sees the corn growing. One day it is over his head.

"How is this to be avoided, among ordinary men, even highly educated ordinary men? Frankly, I do not know. I do not see, even now. Many, many times since it all happened I have pondered that pair of great maxims, Principiis obsta and Finem respice—‘Resist the beginnings’ and ‘Consider the end.’ But one must foresee the end in order to resist, or even see, the beginnings. One must foresee the end clearly and certainly and how is this to be done, by ordinary men or even by extraordinary men? Things might have. And everyone counts on that might.

http://www.press.uchicago.edu/Misc/Chicago/511928.html


also see https://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/8/29/1125588/-German-s-Thought-They-Were-Free-and-So-do-You

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K&R... spanone Aug 2017 #1
Big knr joeybee12 Aug 2017 #2
Sad but true dembotoz Aug 2017 #3
The GOP are acting like edhopper Aug 2017 #4
The GOP are the modern day Nazi party, the Good Germans are the Independents Not Ruth Aug 2017 #8
Point taken edhopper Aug 2017 #9
Your comment is very insulting aquamarina Aug 2017 #22
I'm not as offended as you are but yes... chwaliszewski Aug 2017 #26
Yes. Absolutely. Plus, right-leaning independents are falling away from Hortensis Aug 2017 #66
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And remember .. ananda Aug 2017 #5
resist spike jones Aug 2017 #7
They're so invested in being 'normalized', there's a reason for that ck4829 Aug 2017 #6
Yes. A great line from a MLK quote Duppers Aug 2017 #15
Excellent quote. smirkymonkey Aug 2017 #23
Great line. Seeking to return to the way things were in the face of injustice is injustice. ck4829 Aug 2017 #32
Priorities. Dark n Stormy Knight Aug 2017 #62
There are a lot of conditioning issues, Duppers Aug 2017 #63
Very true. Dark n Stormy Knight Aug 2017 #64
Willing citizens, but few leaders.. Trueblue Texan Aug 2017 #10
Welcome to DU, TrueBlue Texan DesertRat Aug 2017 #29
Yes, you're correct. We need a new Martin Luther King. marybourg Aug 2017 #30
We can refuse to pay our taxes, declare 15 dependents, hold your $$ until April adigal Oct 2017 #69
"Ein Volk, ein Reich, ein Fuhrer!" VOX Aug 2017 #11
Great post! Here's some more parallels. cheyanne Aug 2017 #44
Great post thank you GusBob Aug 2017 #49
You're scaring me. This is chilling. Nt raccoon Aug 2017 #67
There was one book that planted the idea for me, that the Nazis just Baitball Blogger Aug 2017 #12
This message was self-deleted by its author Duppers Aug 2017 #13
A huge difference is that significant numbers of Americans have been PoindexterOglethorpe Aug 2017 #14
A better book perhaps GusBob Aug 2017 #17
Here's an excerpt, and a link -- the author is Milton Mayer RandomAccess Aug 2017 #45
Thank you for the clarification GusBob Aug 2017 #48
K & R Duppers Aug 2017 #16
And propaganda from the right causes it. sharedvalues Aug 2017 #18
fox TV, breibart & several other RW "tabloid" medias are funded by & arms of the Republican party. Sunlei Aug 2017 #33
Yup - funded by billionaires and oil corps sharedvalues Aug 2017 #37
Pretty much how I see it except 30 20 50 lunasun Aug 2017 #19
+1 dalton99a Aug 2017 #20
Fantastic thread. Seriously. It ought to run for a year. Eyeball_Kid Aug 2017 #21
Germanys right-The Local 'gov' did the killing while H's closest "Admin" supervised & public watched Sunlei Aug 2017 #24
Glad my Dad and uncles, the OG Antifa that killed nazis without a permit workinclasszero Aug 2017 #25
There will be no WWII that will come to our rescue LeftInTX Aug 2017 #51
Plus, we have Temer in Brazil to see where we will be at in a few months time. L. Coyote Aug 2017 #27
I've thought of this several times. I had always wondered how that happened in Germany, now I see RKP5637 Aug 2017 #28
If you refuse to be that 1/3 that watches, then read this. ck4829 Aug 2017 #31
I have wondered also SCVDem Aug 2017 #34
Lugenpresse, Fake News. Same propaganda sharedvalues Aug 2017 #38
As has been said, this did not happen in a vacuum. For years we Enoki33 Aug 2017 #35
Germany in 1933 was ripe for a fascist takeover DFW Aug 2017 #36
excellent post my friend steve2470 Aug 2017 #40
The Germans are looking on in horror DFW Aug 2017 #41
I really appreciate your info from Germany steve2470 Aug 2017 #43
Agree with Steve LeftInTX Aug 2017 #50
Ryan and McConnell are as responsible for him as anyone DFW Aug 2017 #52
Can't do such without propaganda TV like FAUX news and BigFart uponit7771 Aug 2017 #39
Actually "Breitfart" is quite fitting DFW Aug 2017 #42
The only thing we have going for us is jimlup Aug 2017 #46
Absolutely true. BainsBane Aug 2017 #53
Absolutely true. byronius Aug 2017 #54
We can learn from 1930's Germany, but we are different. BarbD Aug 2017 #55
We are different, but we have other risks sharedvalues Aug 2017 #56
No doubt the reach of the propaganda right is formidable. BarbD Aug 2017 #59
Agreed that we will win this fight. sharedvalues Aug 2017 #57
k&r n/t lordsummerisle Aug 2017 #58
I was a wee child -- actually, I was a wee teenager -- when I first saw this Monty Python sketch rocktivity Aug 2017 #60
Indeed. And my heart is torn open by the knowledge. PatrickforO Aug 2017 #61
and yet Solly Mack Aug 2017 #65
"All it take for evil to exist is for good people to remain silent." Honeycombe8 Aug 2017 #68
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