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Warren DeMontague

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88. No, the increased tax revenues are only part of the equation.

Sat Aug 26, 2017, 07:51 PM

Aug 2017

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Not telling consenting adults what they're allowed to do with their own bodies isn't a "liberal Democrat" position? Bullshit. It's called CHOICE.

There's nothing progressive about being a control freak.

I'm sorry, but I've been on this planet for half a fucking century. It's NOT ANYONE'S FUCKING BUSINESS if I or those like me choose to ingest a substance that humanity has been using safely for 10,000 years or more. And why the everloving FUCK shouldn't we as consenting adults be able to go to a clean, well-lighted, government regulated establishment and purchase a product that is clearly labeled for potency, tested and regulated in terms of pesticides, mold and other contaminants, and yes pay taxes on the transaction?

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Is Joe Kennedy who we need for 2020? [View all] ariesgem Aug 2017 OP

I would vote for a Kennedy el sayed ticket in a heartbeat Tiggeroshii Aug 2017 #1

Or how 'bout Kennedy Newsom? calimary Aug 2017 #6

I mean right now it's an anybody will do kinda thing Tiggeroshii Aug 2017 #9

I was thinking of Kennedy/Sherod Brown to carry Ohio. world wide wally Aug 2017 #13

That is a good idea. Demsrule86 Aug 2017 #94

Would have to take a serious look at Joe. InAbLuEsTaTe Aug 2017 #76

Do it! You might be pleasantly surprised. calimary Aug 2017 #85

Where does Joe stand on progressive issues that matter, including the following, just to name a few? InAbLuEsTaTe Aug 2017 #91

He is not a cosponsor of Conyers's bill for single payer Jim Lane Aug 2017 #92

Number six has to go...we need funding. Demsrule86 Aug 2017 #95

Would like to think "just to name a FEW" (issues) would be apparent... guess not. InAbLuEsTaTe Aug 2017 #136

I don't like purity test...my purity test goes like this...does the candidate have a 'D' next to his Demsrule86 Aug 2017 #141

"Purity test"?! Good one!! So, if you dare ask where someone stands on certain issues... InAbLuEsTaTe Aug 2017 #160

No, Demanding that the candidate stand for your version of certain issues and withholding your Demsrule86 Aug 2017 #168

lol, I didn't demand ANYTHING; asked a question where Kennedy stood on a few nonexclusive issues... InAbLuEsTaTe Aug 2017 #174

I am not talking about you...I am talking about the voter who takes his/her ball and goes Demsrule86 Aug 2017 #184

OK, then my apologies; just that it sure SOUNDED like you accused me of demanding (I didnt)... InAbLuEsTaTe Aug 2017 #185

I'm just starting to get to know him. He had me with one statement about the ACA. calimary Aug 2017 #125

I hear ya... like what Joe sayin bout lookin out for each other... now THERE'S A concept! InAbLuEsTaTe Aug 2017 #137

Experience is very underrated. ehrnst Aug 2017 #2

100% agree. Bleacher Creature Aug 2017 #108

It always helps to have held a state wide office TexasBushwhacker Aug 2017 #109

Roosevelt had a stamina problem but I do think we were delisen Aug 2017 #128

Yes, however the presidency now requires a more intense level of stamina. ehrnst Aug 2017 #148

I prefer a Roosevelt who did not survive last term to many younger presidents delisen Aug 2017 #149

That is why I suggested a balance of experience and stamina. (nt) ehrnst Aug 2017 #150

Bush Jr, Obama, Trump. Our last three presidents had almost no federal experience. LittleBlue Aug 2017 #156

If not 2020, then 2024. Hopefully he stays safe. I have seen too many Kennedys die early. kerry-is-my-prez Aug 2017 #3

So when someone is young..... ollie10 Aug 2017 #7

No, I'd vote for him. Obama changed my mind about people being too young and inexperienced. kerry-is-my-prez Aug 2017 #18

He just might be. I noticed him awhile ago, and every time I see him these days, calimary Aug 2017 #4

I agree. ariesgem Aug 2017 #5

Kennedy "gets it".... ollie10 Aug 2017 #8

As much as I don't want to jump on the Kennedy bandwagon, I must say smirkymonkey Aug 2017 #24

He's a Kennedy. xmas74 Aug 2017 #121

I'm very much for him OKNancy Aug 2017 #10

That's a good age. Where has he been all these years? Surprised there hasn't been more attention kerry-is-my-prez Aug 2017 #20

He has to do more than be named "Kennedy" comradebillyboy Aug 2017 #155

Please. Orsino Aug 2017 #173

Denial of a vote due only to genetics is as absurd a notion LanternWaste Aug 2017 #176

But that wasn't my question. Orsino Aug 2017 #180

I know very little of him Skittles Aug 2017 #11

He is very good. Knows the law, is studious and faithful to his wife. Blue_true Aug 2017 #17

with all due respect Skittles Aug 2017 #19

You have a valid point. nt Blue_true Aug 2017 #32

honestly, it is their business Skittles Aug 2017 #115

He is very good. Knows the law, is studious and faithful to his wife. LenaBaby61 Aug 2017 #78

I love him! world wide wally Aug 2017 #12

I like him a lot. GeorgeGist Aug 2017 #14

He's great, but several years younger than Obama. I see him more as VP. n/t pnwmom Aug 2017 #15

His grandfather is my first political hero nini Aug 2017 #16

His great uncle was mine. I grew up during what they called "Camelot" - the shining city on the kerry-is-my-prez Aug 2017 #23

I remember JFK but a bit too young to really understand nini Aug 2017 #82

Me too.. whathehell Aug 2017 #106

What is "needed" are inspired and energetic voters guillaumeb Aug 2017 #21

However, many believe that they should expect nothing less than a candidate ehrnst Aug 2017 #152

True. They are searching for that perfect candidate, guillaumeb Aug 2017 #161

No way. Anti-choice on marijuana legalization rollin74 Aug 2017 #22

He's had a lot of substance abuse issues in his family. I work in the substance abuse/mental health kerry-is-my-prez Aug 2017 #26

prohibition has failed. Warren DeMontague Aug 2017 #35

If this is true, then put me down as a "no". HeartachesNhangovers Aug 2017 #27

exactly. I don't want to go backwards on this issue rollin74 Aug 2017 #29

Maybe customerserviceguy Aug 2017 #42

The voters of his state voted for legalization. Warren DeMontague Aug 2017 #50

So? Legalization will come through the states. Demsrule86 Aug 2017 #96

until the federal law changes, legalization efforts at the state level can be stopped any time rollin74 Aug 2017 #165

What policy positions does he hold that will HeartachesNhangovers Aug 2017 #25

It's this ridiculous magical thinking that we need some special gimmick to win elections Warren DeMontague Aug 2017 #36

Harris- Kennedy sellitman Aug 2017 #28

+1000 Pachamama Aug 2017 #31

Yes! DesertRat Aug 2017 #34

1000% yes Freddie Aug 2017 #71

Getting young is the plan sellitman Aug 2017 #186

No more cannabis prohibitionists. Warren DeMontague Aug 2017 #30

No, He is a good guy and smart...the fact he is a Kennedy is not the issue...so is Carolyn Demsrule86 Aug 2017 #97

I think federal law will be brought in line. It doesnt have to be "legalization", just descheduling Warren DeMontague Aug 2017 #104

It won't happen on the federal level. Demsrule86 Aug 2017 #143

Yes, it will. Warren DeMontague Aug 2017 #159

It won't. You would need a super majority. Eventually as more states act. The Feds will let it go. Demsrule86 Aug 2017 #169

Congress has already approved rohrbacher-farr repearedly, for starts. Warren DeMontague Aug 2017 #178

All progress will be lose with the GOP and Sessions in Charge. Demsrule86 Aug 2017 #183

Yep. Warren DeMontague Aug 2017 #188

Caroline dflprincess Aug 2017 #119

Wait a minute! Don't we have enough female talent to start considering a woman CTyankee Aug 2017 #33

As an added bonus, Elizabeth Warren understands that Massachusets voters support legal marijuana. Warren DeMontague Aug 2017 #38

Remember when we didn't like "dynasties" around here? brooklynite Aug 2017 #37

I'm with you. Warren DeMontague Aug 2017 #39

No, I don't.... vi5 Aug 2017 #177

After Obama, his being young doesn't scare me DFW Aug 2017 #40

I think this is more about Boomers feeling nostalgic for their salad days, than anything else. Warren DeMontague Aug 2017 #43

In this media age, maybe not DFW Aug 2017 #65

I'm totally willing to keep an open mind. Warren DeMontague Aug 2017 #67

It's the only logical option DFW Aug 2017 #70

The Republican "flowers" were thistles. lastlib Aug 2017 #166

No more Kennedys, no more Clintons, no more dynasties geek tragedy Aug 2017 #41

1960 was 57 years ago. in 2020 we will be 1/5th of the way to the 22ND CENTURY. Warren DeMontague Aug 2017 #44

And 1932 was 85 years ago. geek tragedy Aug 2017 #131

Of course. Warren DeMontague Aug 2017 #134

Trump isn't a dynasty world wide wally Aug 2017 #45

Actually, he inherited his business. Barack Obama wasnt a dynasty. Neither was Bill Clinton. Warren DeMontague Aug 2017 #47

I hought we were discussing political dynasties world wide wally Aug 2017 #49

Okay, like I said, both Bill Clinton and Barack Obama came out of essentially nowhere. Warren DeMontague Aug 2017 #51

Actually, I like what he says world wide wally Aug 2017 #52

Color me not super impressed yet. Warren DeMontague Aug 2017 #55

My first time wasn't exactly memorable. Just sayin' Bradshaw3 Aug 2017 #73

I came of age during "just say no" Warren DeMontague Aug 2017 #75

Trump is little more than a dynasty. Orsino Aug 2017 #182

3/4 of a Presidential term, two assassinations and a tragic death is a "dynasty"? HughBeaumont Aug 2017 #54

right, if his last name was "shmenge" we'd all be talking about him for 2020. Warren DeMontague Aug 2017 #59

He may be a great guy but again too much baggage. kacekwl Aug 2017 #80

No, I don't agree. Ted Kennedy was a lion in the Senate...and there is no reason not to Demsrule86 Aug 2017 #98

Would we be talking about a backbencher from Massachusetts geek tragedy Aug 2017 #132

Pres. Obama was a backbencher from Illinois. Demsrule86 Aug 2017 #142

he was the 2004 DNC keynote speaker geek tragedy Aug 2017 #147

He only had one term under his belt...and Kennedy is making a name for himself...tell me who you Demsrule86 Aug 2017 #170

Only reason we're talking about Kennedy is his family name. geek tragedy Aug 2017 #171

that is not true. I heard him on one of the shows. Demsrule86 Aug 2017 #172

I'm really sick of this phony dynasty argument. Its meaningless and inaccurate. phleshdef Aug 2017 #100

As if this guy would be mentioned as a presidential geek tragedy Aug 2017 #133

Especially when it's applied to spouses. (nt) ehrnst Aug 2017 #151

What dynasty? BannonsLiver Aug 2017 #162

No more pols trading off the family name. geek tragedy Aug 2017 #163

Eh, I'll take a pass on that litmus test. BannonsLiver Aug 2017 #175

Amen to that. Kentonio Aug 2017 #164

I wish, but American politics loves them. Orsino Aug 2017 #181

Rep. Kennedy seems like a fine young liberal Democrat who shows hope for leadership in the party. Expecting Rain Aug 2017 #46

Then he should listen to older and wiser voices in the party, like Booker, Harris, Warren and Newsom Warren DeMontague Aug 2017 #60

The wisdom of creating a society where expanded and widespread use of marijuana is the norm... Expecting Rain Aug 2017 #61

Uh, people already use cannabis. Prohibition has failed. Warren DeMontague Aug 2017 #62

I'm from California and also understand that the widespread use of marijuana has social costs... Expecting Rain Aug 2017 #63

Ah, Prohibition and the drug war have social costs, too. Warren DeMontague Aug 2017 #66

I feel you are bashing a good Democrat and engaging in blanket group attacks on... Expecting Rain Aug 2017 #72

Your opinion may change once you see it working. Warren DeMontague Aug 2017 #74

Of course it is about expanding drug use. Expecting Rain Aug 2017 #81

No, the increased tax revenues are only part of the equation. Warren DeMontague Aug 2017 #88

Sounds libertarian to me. Not like a liberal position. Expecting Rain Aug 2017 #116

You can try and slap whatever label you want on it. I'm on the side of Booker, Pelosi, and Newsom. Warren DeMontague Aug 2017 #140

The social costs of marijuana criminalization far exceed imaginary gateway drug arguments phleshdef Aug 2017 #102

I live in a place that has legalized, & the ONLY thing that has changed is the increased tax revenue Warren DeMontague Aug 2017 #110

People like that don't know jack shit about marijuana. phleshdef Aug 2017 #112

Sounds like you don't have kids and don't give a crap.... Expecting Rain Aug 2017 #117

I know what I'm taking about phleshdef Aug 2017 #130

Sure pal Expecting Rain Aug 2017 #135

I agree with you rollin74 Aug 2017 #167

None of whom are likely to be the candidate in 20 in my opinion. Demsrule86 Aug 2017 #99

Booker, Harris, Warren, and Newsom arent--- but this Kennedy kid is? Warren DeMontague Aug 2017 #103

I don't think any of the candidates you mention will be the nominee...I have no idea who Demsrule86 Aug 2017 #145

No. No more dynasties, period. n/t TygrBright Aug 2017 #48

He's like his Uncle Ted, and I'm okay with that. Values count. WinkyDink Aug 2017 #87

Tammy Duckworth! She'd win in a landslide! Squinch Aug 2017 #53

TAMMY DUCKWORTH KICKS ASS. Warren DeMontague Aug 2017 #57

TWICE! Squinch Aug 2017 #58

I'll look him over. byronius Aug 2017 #56

Mid-term elections first... LakeArenal Aug 2017 #64

He supports marijuana criminalization. Warren DeMontague Aug 2017 #68

Not going to speculate about any candidate. It's too early. LakeArenal Aug 2017 #84

THIS progressoid Aug 2017 #158

Stop with the 2020 fantasies. Focus on next year. Hekate Aug 2017 #69

Dunno, I'd like to see him get a little more seasoned. Warpy Aug 2017 #77

Just listened to his Speech after Charlottesville... EarnestPutz Aug 2017 #79

After House Speaker Eddie Munster's March 2017 speech calling repeal of ACA "an act of mercy" red dog 1 Aug 2017 #83

He's my guy. WinkyDink Aug 2017 #86

He deserves a serious look. I think he would be viable Ninga Aug 2017 #89

what happened to mercuryblues Aug 2017 #90

How about we deal with 18 first...Kennedy is smart and capable...have to wait and see. Demsrule86 Aug 2017 #93

Right now, the Republican mouthpiece Joe Scarborough underthematrix Aug 2017 #113

A GOP meme for sure and also helped by our revolution and Greens...we have Demsrule86 Aug 2017 #144

Yes, absolutely! nt Raine Aug 2017 #101

YES YES YES YES YES underthematrix Aug 2017 #105

"a great win for white male excellence" Warren DeMontague Aug 2017 #107

Hey we want to show everyone DEMOCRATS have the BEST males - no matter what the color underthematrix Aug 2017 #111

And not just the showroom models. You should see our fleet department! Warren DeMontague Aug 2017 #114

Amen! underthematrix Aug 2017 #138

I have a favourite who has years of experience: Al Franken. Let applegrove Aug 2017 #118

Al Franken has better taste in music, too. Warren DeMontague Aug 2017 #120

I don't know his taste in music but Franken is certainly as well rounded applegrove Aug 2017 #122

Anybody who can identify the subtle difference between an '80 and an '81 "Althea" has my vote Warren DeMontague Aug 2017 #123

I'm outside the US so video did not play for me. I did look up Althea applegrove Aug 2017 #124

Yes, he will get my vote if he runs Tankman Aug 2017 #127

He said he would not. Then this week there was a sign he might be convinced applegrove Aug 2017 #129

If Joe Kennedy, III runs CountAllVotes Aug 2017 #179

Midterms, midterms, midterms.... Heartstrings Aug 2017 #126

Is he anti-war? NCDem777 Aug 2017 #139

No. NNadir Aug 2017 #146

Not yet. Obama had his Audacity of Hope speech at the 2004 DNC that set up his campaign aikoaiko Aug 2017 #153

Gillibrand / Kennedy for 2020. democratisphere Aug 2017 #154

YES. I was impressed with his ACA speech *first,* Silver Gaia Aug 2017 #157

The American people are sick of political dynasties. Get someone else. Nt LostOne4Ever Aug 2017 #187