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Demsrule86

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95. Number six has to go...we need funding.

Sat Aug 26, 2017, 09:40 PM

Aug 2017

Geez...you may have a candidate who may not believe everything you wrote...then what? I don't care for single payer ...don't think it will work...there are better systems in Europe...and free tuition...never happen, but we could work on helping those with student debt and maybe a junior college approach...$15.00 not happening anytime soon either., but let's get what we can... how about preserving the ACA, Medicare, Social Security, Medicaid, saving the environment (that is never in any of the important demands by those who claim special progressive status (not talking about you), a woman's right to choose is missing too...all economics...most not going to happen. But we will get some stuff if we elect any Democrat even one who falls short of your standards...looking at your list, I can see where a candidate who espouse those six things might have trouble with women and people of color...as a woman I don't find them inspiring...I am looking at losing the right to use birth control and abortion rights... I also notice there is nothing about the issues facing people of color either. We need to have a primary someone will win and then we need to vote for that person no matter what...even if they are not perfect.

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Is Joe Kennedy who we need for 2020? [View all] ariesgem Aug 2017 OP

I would vote for a Kennedy el sayed ticket in a heartbeat Tiggeroshii Aug 2017 #1

Or how 'bout Kennedy Newsom? calimary Aug 2017 #6

I mean right now it's an anybody will do kinda thing Tiggeroshii Aug 2017 #9

I was thinking of Kennedy/Sherod Brown to carry Ohio. world wide wally Aug 2017 #13

That is a good idea. Demsrule86 Aug 2017 #94

Would have to take a serious look at Joe. InAbLuEsTaTe Aug 2017 #76

Do it! You might be pleasantly surprised. calimary Aug 2017 #85

Where does Joe stand on progressive issues that matter, including the following, just to name a few? InAbLuEsTaTe Aug 2017 #91

He is not a cosponsor of Conyers's bill for single payer Jim Lane Aug 2017 #92

Number six has to go...we need funding. Demsrule86 Aug 2017 #95

Would like to think "just to name a FEW" (issues) would be apparent... guess not. InAbLuEsTaTe Aug 2017 #136

I don't like purity test...my purity test goes like this...does the candidate have a 'D' next to his Demsrule86 Aug 2017 #141

"Purity test"?! Good one!! So, if you dare ask where someone stands on certain issues... InAbLuEsTaTe Aug 2017 #160

No, Demanding that the candidate stand for your version of certain issues and withholding your Demsrule86 Aug 2017 #168

lol, I didn't demand ANYTHING; asked a question where Kennedy stood on a few nonexclusive issues... InAbLuEsTaTe Aug 2017 #174

I am not talking about you...I am talking about the voter who takes his/her ball and goes Demsrule86 Aug 2017 #184

OK, then my apologies; just that it sure SOUNDED like you accused me of demanding (I didnt)... InAbLuEsTaTe Aug 2017 #185

I'm just starting to get to know him. He had me with one statement about the ACA. calimary Aug 2017 #125

I hear ya... like what Joe sayin bout lookin out for each other... now THERE'S A concept! InAbLuEsTaTe Aug 2017 #137

Experience is very underrated. ehrnst Aug 2017 #2

100% agree. Bleacher Creature Aug 2017 #108

It always helps to have held a state wide office TexasBushwhacker Aug 2017 #109

Roosevelt had a stamina problem but I do think we were delisen Aug 2017 #128

Yes, however the presidency now requires a more intense level of stamina. ehrnst Aug 2017 #148

I prefer a Roosevelt who did not survive last term to many younger presidents delisen Aug 2017 #149

That is why I suggested a balance of experience and stamina. (nt) ehrnst Aug 2017 #150

Bush Jr, Obama, Trump. Our last three presidents had almost no federal experience. LittleBlue Aug 2017 #156

If not 2020, then 2024. Hopefully he stays safe. I have seen too many Kennedys die early. kerry-is-my-prez Aug 2017 #3

So when someone is young..... ollie10 Aug 2017 #7

No, I'd vote for him. Obama changed my mind about people being too young and inexperienced. kerry-is-my-prez Aug 2017 #18

He just might be. I noticed him awhile ago, and every time I see him these days, calimary Aug 2017 #4

I agree. ariesgem Aug 2017 #5

Kennedy "gets it".... ollie10 Aug 2017 #8

As much as I don't want to jump on the Kennedy bandwagon, I must say smirkymonkey Aug 2017 #24

He's a Kennedy. xmas74 Aug 2017 #121

I'm very much for him OKNancy Aug 2017 #10

That's a good age. Where has he been all these years? Surprised there hasn't been more attention kerry-is-my-prez Aug 2017 #20

He has to do more than be named "Kennedy" comradebillyboy Aug 2017 #155

Please. Orsino Aug 2017 #173

Denial of a vote due only to genetics is as absurd a notion LanternWaste Aug 2017 #176

But that wasn't my question. Orsino Aug 2017 #180

I know very little of him Skittles Aug 2017 #11

He is very good. Knows the law, is studious and faithful to his wife. Blue_true Aug 2017 #17

with all due respect Skittles Aug 2017 #19

You have a valid point. nt Blue_true Aug 2017 #32

honestly, it is their business Skittles Aug 2017 #115

He is very good. Knows the law, is studious and faithful to his wife. LenaBaby61 Aug 2017 #78

I love him! world wide wally Aug 2017 #12

I like him a lot. GeorgeGist Aug 2017 #14

He's great, but several years younger than Obama. I see him more as VP. n/t pnwmom Aug 2017 #15

His grandfather is my first political hero nini Aug 2017 #16

His great uncle was mine. I grew up during what they called "Camelot" - the shining city on the kerry-is-my-prez Aug 2017 #23

I remember JFK but a bit too young to really understand nini Aug 2017 #82

Me too.. whathehell Aug 2017 #106

What is "needed" are inspired and energetic voters guillaumeb Aug 2017 #21

However, many believe that they should expect nothing less than a candidate ehrnst Aug 2017 #152

True. They are searching for that perfect candidate, guillaumeb Aug 2017 #161

No way. Anti-choice on marijuana legalization rollin74 Aug 2017 #22

He's had a lot of substance abuse issues in his family. I work in the substance abuse/mental health kerry-is-my-prez Aug 2017 #26

prohibition has failed. Warren DeMontague Aug 2017 #35

If this is true, then put me down as a "no". HeartachesNhangovers Aug 2017 #27

exactly. I don't want to go backwards on this issue rollin74 Aug 2017 #29

Maybe customerserviceguy Aug 2017 #42

The voters of his state voted for legalization. Warren DeMontague Aug 2017 #50

So? Legalization will come through the states. Demsrule86 Aug 2017 #96

until the federal law changes, legalization efforts at the state level can be stopped any time rollin74 Aug 2017 #165

What policy positions does he hold that will HeartachesNhangovers Aug 2017 #25

It's this ridiculous magical thinking that we need some special gimmick to win elections Warren DeMontague Aug 2017 #36

Harris- Kennedy sellitman Aug 2017 #28

+1000 Pachamama Aug 2017 #31

Yes! DesertRat Aug 2017 #34

1000% yes Freddie Aug 2017 #71

Getting young is the plan sellitman Aug 2017 #186

No more cannabis prohibitionists. Warren DeMontague Aug 2017 #30

No, He is a good guy and smart...the fact he is a Kennedy is not the issue...so is Carolyn Demsrule86 Aug 2017 #97

I think federal law will be brought in line. It doesnt have to be "legalization", just descheduling Warren DeMontague Aug 2017 #104

It won't happen on the federal level. Demsrule86 Aug 2017 #143

Yes, it will. Warren DeMontague Aug 2017 #159

It won't. You would need a super majority. Eventually as more states act. The Feds will let it go. Demsrule86 Aug 2017 #169

Congress has already approved rohrbacher-farr repearedly, for starts. Warren DeMontague Aug 2017 #178

All progress will be lose with the GOP and Sessions in Charge. Demsrule86 Aug 2017 #183

Yep. Warren DeMontague Aug 2017 #188

Caroline dflprincess Aug 2017 #119

Wait a minute! Don't we have enough female talent to start considering a woman CTyankee Aug 2017 #33

As an added bonus, Elizabeth Warren understands that Massachusets voters support legal marijuana. Warren DeMontague Aug 2017 #38

Remember when we didn't like "dynasties" around here? brooklynite Aug 2017 #37

I'm with you. Warren DeMontague Aug 2017 #39

No, I don't.... vi5 Aug 2017 #177

After Obama, his being young doesn't scare me DFW Aug 2017 #40

I think this is more about Boomers feeling nostalgic for their salad days, than anything else. Warren DeMontague Aug 2017 #43

In this media age, maybe not DFW Aug 2017 #65

I'm totally willing to keep an open mind. Warren DeMontague Aug 2017 #67

It's the only logical option DFW Aug 2017 #70

The Republican "flowers" were thistles. lastlib Aug 2017 #166

No more Kennedys, no more Clintons, no more dynasties geek tragedy Aug 2017 #41

1960 was 57 years ago. in 2020 we will be 1/5th of the way to the 22ND CENTURY. Warren DeMontague Aug 2017 #44

And 1932 was 85 years ago. geek tragedy Aug 2017 #131

Of course. Warren DeMontague Aug 2017 #134

Trump isn't a dynasty world wide wally Aug 2017 #45

Actually, he inherited his business. Barack Obama wasnt a dynasty. Neither was Bill Clinton. Warren DeMontague Aug 2017 #47

I hought we were discussing political dynasties world wide wally Aug 2017 #49

Okay, like I said, both Bill Clinton and Barack Obama came out of essentially nowhere. Warren DeMontague Aug 2017 #51

Actually, I like what he says world wide wally Aug 2017 #52

Color me not super impressed yet. Warren DeMontague Aug 2017 #55

My first time wasn't exactly memorable. Just sayin' Bradshaw3 Aug 2017 #73

I came of age during "just say no" Warren DeMontague Aug 2017 #75

Trump is little more than a dynasty. Orsino Aug 2017 #182

3/4 of a Presidential term, two assassinations and a tragic death is a "dynasty"? HughBeaumont Aug 2017 #54

right, if his last name was "shmenge" we'd all be talking about him for 2020. Warren DeMontague Aug 2017 #59

He may be a great guy but again too much baggage. kacekwl Aug 2017 #80

No, I don't agree. Ted Kennedy was a lion in the Senate...and there is no reason not to Demsrule86 Aug 2017 #98

Would we be talking about a backbencher from Massachusetts geek tragedy Aug 2017 #132

Pres. Obama was a backbencher from Illinois. Demsrule86 Aug 2017 #142

he was the 2004 DNC keynote speaker geek tragedy Aug 2017 #147

He only had one term under his belt...and Kennedy is making a name for himself...tell me who you Demsrule86 Aug 2017 #170

Only reason we're talking about Kennedy is his family name. geek tragedy Aug 2017 #171

that is not true. I heard him on one of the shows. Demsrule86 Aug 2017 #172

I'm really sick of this phony dynasty argument. Its meaningless and inaccurate. phleshdef Aug 2017 #100

As if this guy would be mentioned as a presidential geek tragedy Aug 2017 #133

Especially when it's applied to spouses. (nt) ehrnst Aug 2017 #151

What dynasty? BannonsLiver Aug 2017 #162

No more pols trading off the family name. geek tragedy Aug 2017 #163

Eh, I'll take a pass on that litmus test. BannonsLiver Aug 2017 #175

Amen to that. Kentonio Aug 2017 #164

I wish, but American politics loves them. Orsino Aug 2017 #181

Rep. Kennedy seems like a fine young liberal Democrat who shows hope for leadership in the party. Expecting Rain Aug 2017 #46

Then he should listen to older and wiser voices in the party, like Booker, Harris, Warren and Newsom Warren DeMontague Aug 2017 #60

The wisdom of creating a society where expanded and widespread use of marijuana is the norm... Expecting Rain Aug 2017 #61

Uh, people already use cannabis. Prohibition has failed. Warren DeMontague Aug 2017 #62

I'm from California and also understand that the widespread use of marijuana has social costs... Expecting Rain Aug 2017 #63

Ah, Prohibition and the drug war have social costs, too. Warren DeMontague Aug 2017 #66

I feel you are bashing a good Democrat and engaging in blanket group attacks on... Expecting Rain Aug 2017 #72

Your opinion may change once you see it working. Warren DeMontague Aug 2017 #74

Of course it is about expanding drug use. Expecting Rain Aug 2017 #81

No, the increased tax revenues are only part of the equation. Warren DeMontague Aug 2017 #88

Sounds libertarian to me. Not like a liberal position. Expecting Rain Aug 2017 #116

You can try and slap whatever label you want on it. I'm on the side of Booker, Pelosi, and Newsom. Warren DeMontague Aug 2017 #140

The social costs of marijuana criminalization far exceed imaginary gateway drug arguments phleshdef Aug 2017 #102

I live in a place that has legalized, & the ONLY thing that has changed is the increased tax revenue Warren DeMontague Aug 2017 #110

People like that don't know jack shit about marijuana. phleshdef Aug 2017 #112

Sounds like you don't have kids and don't give a crap.... Expecting Rain Aug 2017 #117

I know what I'm taking about phleshdef Aug 2017 #130

Sure pal Expecting Rain Aug 2017 #135

I agree with you rollin74 Aug 2017 #167

None of whom are likely to be the candidate in 20 in my opinion. Demsrule86 Aug 2017 #99

Booker, Harris, Warren, and Newsom arent--- but this Kennedy kid is? Warren DeMontague Aug 2017 #103

I don't think any of the candidates you mention will be the nominee...I have no idea who Demsrule86 Aug 2017 #145

No. No more dynasties, period. n/t TygrBright Aug 2017 #48

He's like his Uncle Ted, and I'm okay with that. Values count. WinkyDink Aug 2017 #87

Tammy Duckworth! She'd win in a landslide! Squinch Aug 2017 #53

TAMMY DUCKWORTH KICKS ASS. Warren DeMontague Aug 2017 #57

TWICE! Squinch Aug 2017 #58

I'll look him over. byronius Aug 2017 #56

Mid-term elections first... LakeArenal Aug 2017 #64

He supports marijuana criminalization. Warren DeMontague Aug 2017 #68

Not going to speculate about any candidate. It's too early. LakeArenal Aug 2017 #84

THIS progressoid Aug 2017 #158

Stop with the 2020 fantasies. Focus on next year. Hekate Aug 2017 #69

Dunno, I'd like to see him get a little more seasoned. Warpy Aug 2017 #77

Just listened to his Speech after Charlottesville... EarnestPutz Aug 2017 #79

After House Speaker Eddie Munster's March 2017 speech calling repeal of ACA "an act of mercy" red dog 1 Aug 2017 #83

He's my guy. WinkyDink Aug 2017 #86

He deserves a serious look. I think he would be viable Ninga Aug 2017 #89

what happened to mercuryblues Aug 2017 #90

How about we deal with 18 first...Kennedy is smart and capable...have to wait and see. Demsrule86 Aug 2017 #93

Right now, the Republican mouthpiece Joe Scarborough underthematrix Aug 2017 #113

A GOP meme for sure and also helped by our revolution and Greens...we have Demsrule86 Aug 2017 #144

Yes, absolutely! nt Raine Aug 2017 #101

YES YES YES YES YES underthematrix Aug 2017 #105

"a great win for white male excellence" Warren DeMontague Aug 2017 #107

Hey we want to show everyone DEMOCRATS have the BEST males - no matter what the color underthematrix Aug 2017 #111

And not just the showroom models. You should see our fleet department! Warren DeMontague Aug 2017 #114

Amen! underthematrix Aug 2017 #138

I have a favourite who has years of experience: Al Franken. Let applegrove Aug 2017 #118

Al Franken has better taste in music, too. Warren DeMontague Aug 2017 #120

I don't know his taste in music but Franken is certainly as well rounded applegrove Aug 2017 #122

Anybody who can identify the subtle difference between an '80 and an '81 "Althea" has my vote Warren DeMontague Aug 2017 #123

I'm outside the US so video did not play for me. I did look up Althea applegrove Aug 2017 #124

Yes, he will get my vote if he runs Tankman Aug 2017 #127

He said he would not. Then this week there was a sign he might be convinced applegrove Aug 2017 #129

If Joe Kennedy, III runs CountAllVotes Aug 2017 #179

Midterms, midterms, midterms.... Heartstrings Aug 2017 #126

Is he anti-war? NCDem777 Aug 2017 #139

No. NNadir Aug 2017 #146

Not yet. Obama had his Audacity of Hope speech at the 2004 DNC that set up his campaign aikoaiko Aug 2017 #153

Gillibrand / Kennedy for 2020. democratisphere Aug 2017 #154

YES. I was impressed with his ACA speech *first,* Silver Gaia Aug 2017 #157

The American people are sick of political dynasties. Get someone else. Nt LostOne4Ever Aug 2017 #187