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In reply to the discussion: Is Joe Kennedy who we need for 2020? [View all]Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)The other side of this debate has names like Sessions and Christie.
So tell me again who isn't liberal?
Sounds authoritarian to me.
The "common good" is telling consenting adults what they can do with their own bodies in the privacy of their own homes, now? The drug war doesn't have social costs? Prohibition doesn't have social costs? Filling prisons with pot smokers doesn't have social costs?
And again, if we're gonna wave the word "libertarian" around like it actually proves anything beyond the inability to defend a 100 year old, failed, indefensible policy, let's look at it all the way, shall we? Are you suggesting that somehow the marijuana trade is going to go away if we only don't legalize it? It's already there. It's been there. Everyone who hasn't spent the past several decades watching veggietales cartoons and going to abstinence only purity balls, knows that marijuana has been woven into the fabric of public life for as long as any of us can remember.
So fine, we don't legalize, we don't regulate, we don't tax. And marijuana stays in the black market, as it always has. These adolescents you're so concerned about will be able to find the stuff, as they always have been able to- but the public will have to go through the unregulated black market. Again, not knowing potency, not having any regulation on the product, not knowing if what they're ingesting has been tested for mold, pesticides, whatever. That's the Ayn Rand government-free libertarian nightmare you're so concerned about.
The answer is legalization and regulation, because prohibition hasn't stopped anyone who wants to, from smoking pot. Ever.