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nobodyspecial

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16. Either you have a hard time articulating your position or I'm just not following you.,
Sun Jul 15, 2012, 04:00 PM
Jul 2012

From your post: "there is a reason we can't have both if money & time are tied up in 1) and few people are doing 2).
and when the media highlights 1) and ignores or demonizes 2)."

The poor are not being ignored or demonized in this story, as you admit. So, what is your point? It seems contradictory.

I can easily tell you why you see these types of stories appear in papers more than long treatises on the root causes of poverty. On e is space. You can tell this story in about 8 column inches. The other would require an entire pullout section. Editors also consider what the audience wants. This is a simple story that makes people feel good. Very few readers can understand or want to read about poverty, socioeconomic theories or alternative economic systems. If they do, they will be reading books, not relying on the newspaper.


"no, charity will not lead to any ends but more charity."
Charity leads to the very specific ends of making a person or a family's life better. And, you have no idea how that will ripple forward in society. Your idea seems to be to let people suffer until we change society.

"the history of charity goes back to rome. it ameliorates & thus supports the status quo."
And that statement proves what a very, very long wait these kids will have to enjoy a birthday party. If we have not come up with a system that eliminates the need for charity in hundreds of centuries, what makes you think anything is on the horizon? What solution do you have? What should people be doing?

I would be very angry and agitated all of the time living in a world of could have been's and should be's.

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K&R murielm99 Jul 2012 #1
Happy Birthday!!!!!!!! elbloggoZY27 Jul 2012 #2
cool idea. Liberal_in_LA Jul 2012 #3
that is nice. but the reason they don't have birthday parties is because their families don't have HiPointDem Jul 2012 #4
You are absolutely correct Sherman A1 Jul 2012 #5
it may not be lost on them, but it won't change their life trajectory on average. because contrary HiPointDem Jul 2012 #8
I agree with the other poster nobodyspecial Jul 2012 #11
Charity has been around since the roman empire and before. It doesn't make anything better in HiPointDem Jul 2012 #15
What do you want these ladies to be doing nobodyspecial Jul 2012 #17
I was one of those kids. When I grew up, I never had a birthday party. progressivebydesign Jul 2012 #6
there is a reason we can't have both if money & time are tied up in 1) and few people are doing 2). HiPointDem Jul 2012 #7
Who is being demonized here? nobodyspecial Jul 2012 #12
no one is being demonised in the op, and my post is knocking no one. i am commenting on the HiPointDem Jul 2012 #14
Either you have a hard time articulating your position or I'm just not following you., nobodyspecial Jul 2012 #16
oh, look: the birthday club has "partners and sponsors"! HiPointDem Jul 2012 #19
OMG! You mean money doesn't magically appear? nobodyspecial Jul 2012 #20
well, it seemed to in the article originally posted... one lady & $25 bucks! sure sounded like she HiPointDem Jul 2012 #22
So write the paper and demand a correction nobodyspecial Jul 2012 #23
i'm correcting the record here. HiPointDem Jul 2012 #24
Huh? nobodyspecial Jul 2012 #26
I'm sorry, I just think you are wrong about this... ljm2002 Jul 2012 #18
yes, having other people pay for and organize their kids' parties must relieve their guilt immensely HiPointDem Jul 2012 #21
I wonder as well nobodyspecial Jul 2012 #25
Agreed Sherman A1 Jul 2012 #27
lol. it was quite clear what i was saying; you just don't want to hear it, is all. people who HiPointDem Jul 2012 #30
Most of the kids I've known who don't have parties proud2BlibKansan Jul 2012 #9
70 years of no birthday celebrations.......... mrmpa Jul 2012 #10
That's a beautiful story. nobodyspecial Jul 2012 #13
And in that lies Sherman A1 Jul 2012 #28
Agreed nobodyspecial Jul 2012 #29
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