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MosheFeingold

(3,051 posts)
2. I've given this a lot of thought
Wed Aug 30, 2017, 03:50 PM
Aug 2017

I am loathe to judge any person by the actions of a group in which he is in.

I struck a life-long friendship with a fellow immigrant in the 1960s who became my neighbor. He was German, member of the Hitler Youth, and soldier for the Germans in the waning days of WWII. Lost his foot to disease somewhere in Russia.

When we met, I immediately hated him. He was unfailingly polite and gentle. We traded German-language books. And just a good guy, in general. His kids went to my kids' bar/bat-mitzvahs. My son was one of his son's groomsmen. Etc. He died about 1988, too young, of a heart attack. I spoke at his funeral about what a nice man he was.

I look at "white men" the same way. Yes, a lot of white guys get certain advantages. A lot of white guys get lots of disadvantages, notably the working poor and uneducated. They have been very much been left behind in a post-industrial USA. A strong back and a work ethic no longer means a good job when a robot can do it or the coal mine is closed. That's why meth is the only booming industry in certain parts of the USA. Hope is lost, and people are angry.

I think the problem is our human tendency to group people and blame individuals for the faults of whatever group we created.

It's so often racist or sexist. For example, if one treated a given black man unfairly because you looked at various socioeconomic data and decided that that given black guy was much more likely to be a criminal, it would be racist and unfair to that given black guy.

Same with white guys. Or any group we make up. Individuals are not groups. Individuals are individuals, and each person should be judged as such.

Even German males aged 16-39 sometime between 1939-1947.

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I think when they whine about their poor pitiful plight, we tell them to STFU and Hoyt Aug 2017 #1
You advocate disarming people based on race and gender? Marengo Aug 2017 #6
I disagree with Hoyt strongly on this issue... GulfCoast66 Aug 2017 #10
Truthfully, I can probably live with people having a gun or two AT HOME for Hoyt Aug 2017 #19
I advocate disarming militias, Klansmen, white wing racists who are majority of gun fanciers in this Hoyt Aug 2017 #11
Does that include armed organizations such as the Huey Newton Gun Club, John Brown Gun Club, etc.? Marengo Aug 2017 #17
Marengo, those groups pale in size to all the white wingers who covet gunz, and you know it. Hoyt Aug 2017 #18
You didn't answer the question. Try again, yes or no only please. Marengo Aug 2017 #20
It can be frustrating when context and nuance deny the mental simplicity of only yes or no. LanternWaste Aug 2017 #24
Your lack of a reply to post #20 is rather suspicious. Why are you avoiding answering? Are you... Marengo Aug 2017 #29
+++++++++++ HAB911 Aug 2017 #21
How are they going to prove they are better than everybody else if they don't have their Aristus Aug 2017 #25
I've given this a lot of thought MosheFeingold Aug 2017 #2
Hard truth... Blue_Tires Aug 2017 #3
What you said 100% brush Aug 2017 #27
It doesn't matter what you do maxsolomon Aug 2017 #4
Wow really? cwydro Aug 2017 #5
Everything about our society's status quo has been established to coddle white males. Baitball Blogger Aug 2017 #7
Close MosheFeingold Aug 2017 #8
From a minority stand-point, based on the color of our skin, our perceptions may lend themselves Baitball Blogger Aug 2017 #15
Bingo! nt MrScorpio Aug 2017 #9
As a sterotypical supposed Trump supporter... GulfCoast66 Aug 2017 #12
Spot on. The task is to get them to see they're in the same exploited boat as the rest of us. brush Aug 2017 #28
The entirety of contemporary politics is about coddling angry white men BainsBane Aug 2017 #13
Outstanding Post, BB!!! ProfessorGAC Aug 2017 #22
Brava! KitSileya Aug 2017 #23
Wrong word, 'coddle' Maeve Aug 2017 #14
I wish I could find it now. There was a panel on a TV show about a decade ago ProudLib72 Aug 2017 #16
"THEY CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH' Motley13 Aug 2017 #26
Well, if we'd stop coddling them by telling them lies... Orsino Aug 2017 #30
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