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Igel

(35,300 posts)
23. The problem is simple.
Thu Aug 31, 2017, 12:00 AM
Aug 2017

It's isolated. It's hard to get to, and you'd need scuba gear for the final few feet.

So what's the problem, right? It's in danger of catching fire but it's under water? It's in danger of getting too hot, but the water's not about 80 degrees?

The stuff self-combusts. It's kept cold because then it's stable. At room temperature it's unstable.

Cooling units require some sort of condenser, a heat exchanger. They're designed for use with air. They run on electricity. Under water they don't work. The chemicals heat up. Become unstable. Self-oxidize. Boom.

We'll see if it happens, because while the chemicals become unstable that doesn't automatically mean they ignite.

(Although it would be interesting to work through exactly how the exchangers they have would work with water instead of air. Convective currents would probably be a good substitute for the fans and the exchange should be more efficient. But I digress.)

Get thee to the greatest page malaise Aug 2017 #1
If it happens, I can just hear the government's response. Baitball Blogger Aug 2017 #2
They tell the government... Whiskeytide Aug 2017 #5
I def see a lawsuit coming if anyone is harmed by those chemicals. Baitball Blogger Aug 2017 #6
Yes. Likely. But it won't... Whiskeytide Aug 2017 #8
I would hope this whole clusterfuck will lead to us learning something nini Aug 2017 #3
I would have hoped the Fukushima disaster Warpy Aug 2017 #7
I doubt I live long enough to see something that responsible happen nini Aug 2017 #13
I know I won't. Warpy Aug 2017 #15
Must be too many nit-picking regulations causing this. rickford66 Aug 2017 #4
No, it's having much of the plant under water. Igel Aug 2017 #19
Deregulation at work. Nt HopeAgain Aug 2017 #9
Thanks to Greg Abbott, the public doesn't have the right to know Ilsa Aug 2017 #10
Dominoes falling.......... 7wo7rees Aug 2017 #11
I'm pretty sure it's an ammonia plant n/t TexasBushwhacker Aug 2017 #12
That would be deadly if concentrated vapor was released defacto7 Aug 2017 #16
Found it TexasBushwhacker Aug 2017 #18
Smoke on the water ProudLib72 Aug 2017 #21
It's not. Igel Aug 2017 #20
No word that anyone's doing anything about it.... lindysalsagal Aug 2017 #14
There is nothign they can due. It's buried in six feet of water. Amaryllis Aug 2017 #17
The problem is simple. Igel Aug 2017 #23
Organic peroxides? Speaking as a Ph.D. Chemical Engineer, Still In Wisconsin Aug 2017 #22
At least one container is on fire TexasBushwhacker Aug 2017 #24
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