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Lee-Lee

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37. It's still all available to fire departments and emergency responders

Reply to leftynyc (Reply #23)

Thu Aug 31, 2017, 09:00 AM

Aug 2017

So it will not affect the response one bit.

Citing this as causing a problem with the response is misleading.

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Bad to worse. democratisphere Aug 2017 #1

And after JustAnotherGen Aug 2017 #2

Let 'em eat cake... KY_EnviroGuy Aug 2017 #5

While I'm Pretty Big On Regulations. . . ProfessorGAC Aug 2017 #24

they could have avoided the hazard alltogether. drray23 Aug 2017 #29

+1000 JustAnotherGen Aug 2017 #35

Then They Violated The Regulations, Right? ProfessorGAC Aug 2017 #41

They've been deregulating and it's not clear if this was required- according to the report I saw... bettyellen Aug 2017 #53

R-T-K Still Requires Filings With The Fed, Bettyellen ProfessorGAC Aug 2017 #57

Well the people on site would have to neutralize the chemicals before abandoning the place- but they bettyellen Aug 2017 #58

You Make It Sound So Easy ProfessorGAC Aug 2017 #61

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Wasn't Densely Populated ProfessorGAC Aug 2017 #77

Regs. KY_EnviroGuy Aug 2017 #51

Transport Hazmat JustAnotherGen Aug 2017 #30

Oy. Warren DeMontague Aug 2017 #3

CNN reporting 2 explosions leftynyc Aug 2017 #4

And the company still won't tell anyone what chemicals are housed there malaise Aug 2017 #6

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Look after West Texas, no law should have been passed allowing malaise Aug 2017 #10

Is that a federal or state law you're referencing? bluepen Aug 2017 #13

State n/t malaise Aug 2017 #14

Which TX law? bluepen Aug 2017 #16

This article explains it-Abbot was Attorney General at the time leftynyc Aug 2017 #23

Thanks. The good news, of course, is that law won't bluepen Aug 2017 #31

Fear mongering? JonLP24 Aug 2017 #65

If you think state law supersedes federal, okay. bluepen Aug 2017 #66

Who said state law supersedes federal? JonLP24 Aug 2017 #68

Not so. bluepen Aug 2017 #69

That is from 2014 looks like before they changed the Texas state law JonLP24 Aug 2017 #70

TX state law means nothing bluepen Aug 2017 #71

Texas state law was to keep the info from the public JonLP24 Aug 2017 #72

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Federal law supersedes state law. bluepen Aug 2017 #74

It's still all available to fire departments and emergency responders Lee-Lee Aug 2017 #37

Take it up with the poster leftynyc Aug 2017 #47

Why won't they just say that? What are they hiding? dewsgirl Aug 2017 #12

I saw it in a story yesterday. bluepen Aug 2017 #15

I could have worded that a little better, I Rachel Maddow dewsgirl Aug 2017 #19

I hear ya. See just above and below this, regarding bluepen Aug 2017 #33

There different types of the chemicals and they claim they have less now of a dangerous kind--- bettyellen Aug 2017 #60

Umm, that's all going to be on file in many places Lee-Lee Aug 2017 #9

I'm With Lee On This ProfessorGAC Aug 2017 #25

Yes, federal law requires disclosure of MSDS Sheets. bluepen Aug 2017 #32

Yes, I'm Aware Of That ProfessorGAC Aug 2017 #43

Ok. Just answering the question you typed. bluepen Aug 2017 #46

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What could they have done differently you ask? Justice Aug 2017 #54

That's Not What I Asked ProfessorGAC Aug 2017 #56

Professor.... KY_EnviroGuy Aug 2017 #75

That Is What I Just Said ProfessorGAC Aug 2017 #78

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Look up Crosby on a map B2G Aug 2017 #39

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Everything's is easier in hindsight UnFettered Aug 2017 #40

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See my posting #48 in this thread eleny Aug 2017 #49

oops - dupe removed eleny Aug 2017 #50

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