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guillaumeb

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47. The evacuation will be neccessary.

Thu Aug 31, 2017, 03:19 PM

Aug 2017

Homes that are under water for days and longer will be filled with mold and possibly be contaminated with runoff containing a variety of chemicals.

But what should also be done is to restore the wetlands and allow the water to be absorbed naturally. The map in post #10 vividly illustrates how the metropolitan area has been essentially paved over, with the result being that water takes much longer to drain. But restoring wetlands means less available land for developers.

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How Houston was left to drown under Harvey [View all] guillaumeb Aug 2017 OP

Furthermore: guillaumeb Aug 2017 #1

Zoning doesn't fix 54" of rain. X_Digger Aug 2017 #2

No, but deliberately filling in wetlands and ignoring dams and other guillaumeb Aug 2017 #5

.. which isn't typically handled by zoning boards. I think the point went right over you. n/t X_Digger Aug 2017 #8

Speaking of points, guillaumeb Aug 2017 #15

Yes I did. Obviously the author (and you, apparently) don't know what zoning boards do in TX. n/t X_Digger Aug 2017 #18

Feel free to enlighten us all, and before doing so, guillaumeb Aug 2017 #22

Here you go: X_Digger Aug 2017 #25

How marvelous. guillaumeb Aug 2017 #27

Yes, I did. Post #10 has no bearing on the point under discussion. X_Digger Aug 2017 #29

We were actually discussing the entire post. guillaumeb Aug 2017 #33

You highlighted the passage on zoning in the OP. One assumes, for a reason. X_Digger Aug 2017 #35

I will wait for your opinion about what was discussed in the post. guillaumeb Aug 2017 #42

You'll notice post #10 is not in this subthread. Care to stay on point? X_Digger Aug 2017 #59

I intended to highlight the point guillaumeb Aug 2017 #65

So you demonstrate (again) that you don't know what zoning boards in Texas do. Thanks for that. X_Digger Aug 2017 #67

Interesting how you avoid commenting on what they do. guillaumeb Aug 2017 #69

I pointed you to the information, you have merely to read. n/t X_Digger Aug 2017 #71

Have a nice day. guillaumeb Aug 2017 #73

Do have fun with yourself. n/t X_Digger Aug 2017 #74

Quite obviously the main problem is in your specific reference to "in TX." TEXAS IS THE PROBLEM---OR WinkyDink Aug 2017 #62

Thanks, are you volunteering to come write zoning laws in Houston? X_Digger Aug 2017 #64

Nothing to say about the substance of the response? guillaumeb Aug 2017 #66

I gave it all the thought it deserved. n/t X_Digger Aug 2017 #68

Continuing a pattern? guillaumeb Aug 2017 #70

Responding to snark with as much thought as it engenders. X_Digger Aug 2017 #72

There are no zoning regulations in Houston. You obviously don't know what zoning boards pnwmom Sep 2017 #79

Guns are the answer to this jpak Aug 2017 #61

Wrong. Zoning boards direct housing development away from flood plains, pnwmom Sep 2017 #78

Done correctly, yes it does. L. Coyote Aug 2017 #40

Who (specifically) argued that it would? LanternWaste Aug 2017 #46

Oh look, someone else who didn't notice the highlight in the OP. X_Digger Aug 2017 #60

You don't appear to know what the sentence in bold means. pnwmom Sep 2017 #80

Wow. This is how dumb RW ideas happen. Seriously? kcr Sep 2017 #77

Zoning wouldn't have helped all that much Warpy Aug 2017 #3

Did you read the part about filling in wetlands? guillaumeb Aug 2017 #6

Yes, but that is hardly exclusive to Houston Warpy Aug 2017 #21

Your points are appreciated, and illustrative of a system guillaumeb Aug 2017 #24

That's why you can't do lateral evacuation of a city like Houston Warpy Aug 2017 #31

But building vertically would require substantial investment in infrastructure, guillaumeb Aug 2017 #36

A vertical city would have its own logistical issues. guillaumeb Aug 2017 #43

Not really. Flood waters do recede. They're receding as I type this Warpy Aug 2017 #45

The evacuation will be neccessary. guillaumeb Aug 2017 #47

No kidding. This is where Federal and state help need to come in Warpy Aug 2017 #48

Right on target. eom guillaumeb Aug 2017 #49

houstons metro buses are used to bus people to the closest shelters. Airports are still closed. Sunlei Aug 2017 #37

They would need a system whereby literally every building could be checked guillaumeb Aug 2017 #44

You have a prioritized list and do it in order Not Ruth Aug 2017 #39

I believe that both Addicks and Barker dams are federal. n/t oneshooter Aug 2017 #54

Whixh does not lessen the need to keep infrastructure in good repair. eom guillaumeb Aug 2017 #56

But it is FEDERAL LAND. The state can do nothing without their permission. n/t oneshooter Aug 2017 #76

The public schools were first emergency shelters. I could see the flashing police lights at a school Sunlei Aug 2017 #9

Nothing could have stopped it Nevernose Aug 2017 #75

Name any usa city that can take 50 inches of rain in a week. Sunlei Aug 2017 #4

The fourth largest city, with no zoning regulations. guillaumeb Aug 2017 #7

Houston has local zoning, its very hard to find places with unincorporated homes in the houston area Sunlei Aug 2017 #11

See post #10 guillaumeb Aug 2017 #20

so what, the Republicans fuck up and politicize everything to their advantage. They build mansions Sunlei Aug 2017 #23

Unregulated capitalism in action. guillaumeb Aug 2017 #26

yup. shuting down twitter and facebook is the answer. Sunlei Aug 2017 #30

So the storm's politicized. Igel Aug 2017 #41

Oh, probably several zipplewrath Aug 2017 #55

Denver? WinkyDink Aug 2017 #63

Trump team politicizes superstorm Harvey by attacking scientists for doing their job L. Coyote Aug 2017 #10

what will be really bad is a hurricane with storm surge. The entire of Florida will wash out to sea. Sunlei Aug 2017 #14

A nice map. guillaumeb Aug 2017 #16

Translation: Crap source plays armchair quarterback. FSogol Aug 2017 #12

See post #10, and label that as a "crap source" also if you wish. guillaumeb Aug 2017 #17

everything drains to the gulf in houston. Sunlei Aug 2017 #28

Not what I asked, and your original claim was about qualifications. guillaumeb Aug 2017 #32

why are you arguing? I'm in SSW Houston & have met with at least 100 people in past 5 days. Sunlei Aug 2017 #38

Although it would be hard, if not impossible, to plan for 50 inches of rain, building where the Shrike47 Aug 2017 #13

Judging by a number of responses so far, guillaumeb Aug 2017 #19

Any city can plan for 50 inches of rain, meadowlander Aug 2017 #34

K & R malaise Aug 2017 #50

Very true. And thank you. guillaumeb Aug 2017 #51

+++++++++++ HAB911 Aug 2017 #53

K&R underpants Aug 2017 #52

Florida fixed our problems when we took the recommendations of James Watts during Clinton's kerry-is-my-prez Aug 2017 #57

But the GOP promotes the wide open business climate of Texas as a model. guillaumeb Aug 2017 #58