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HopeAgain

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43. HIPAA applies to existing records...
Fri Sep 1, 2017, 07:04 AM
Sep 2017

Here, they want to make the hospital participate in a warrantless search (blood draw) without consent. This is also a violation of the Constitution.

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pure insanity. Hired to enforce the law, not be above it JDC Sep 2017 #1
Another scary thing for the police department is... GeoWilliam750 Sep 2017 #61
Holy shit! Hassin Bin Sober Sep 2017 #2
Here's a local news piece Hassin Bin Sober Sep 2017 #3
Wow. What an ASSHOLE. progressoid Sep 2017 #29
What seems to be missed in all of these discussions is that in the extended body cam recordings GeoWilliam750 Sep 2017 #49
This is chilling. liberalmuse Sep 2017 #59
One of the worst examples of police judgement I have ever seen. Unbelievable. LBM20 Sep 2017 #140
There's a cop who should be fired forthwith. Shame on him. Shrike47 Sep 2017 #4
and this one, too.... SharonClark Sep 2017 #101
well, there is a $1M+ lawsuit right there. lapfog_1 Sep 2017 #5
I bloody hope so. Granny M Sep 2017 #11
+100 Duppers Sep 2017 #12
plus, I didn't hear him read her the Miranda warning diva77 Sep 2017 #13
You only have to mirandize before questioning Revanchist Sep 2017 #40
Thanks for clarification -- here's what Findlaw.com says about it diva77 Sep 2017 #100
Bush pretty much killed Miranda. MrsCoffee Sep 2017 #74
Miranda is actually buried right here in Mesa Cemetary JonLP24 Sep 2017 #76
Lol. MrsCoffee Sep 2017 #78
Police State ....... and Trump wants to give them bigger guns Angry Dragon Sep 2017 #6
Oink oink. nt geek tragedy Sep 2017 #7
Wow! JimGinPA Sep 2017 #8
Fascists was the first word that came to mine.. Kentonio Sep 2017 #69
WTF? Ninsianna Sep 2017 #9
thugs JI7 Sep 2017 #10
Thugs with badges TeamPooka Sep 2017 #17
Typically, law enforcement and hospital staff have a good working relationship GeoWilliam750 Sep 2017 #14
Not a firing offence??? orangecrush Sep 2017 #34
This shit is crazy. She was calmly explaining policy and seeking confirmation from her ATL Ebony Sep 2017 #41
It seems that his supervisor told him to arrest her GeoWilliam750 Sep 2017 #47
I know but then the dialogue stopped and it should have been more discussion about the ATL Ebony Sep 2017 #56
Not a firing offense my fucking ass Downtown Hound Sep 2017 #109
Give that cop some military gear! Yeah! WinkyDink Sep 2017 #15
Why do you say that? Revanchist Sep 2017 #42
The concern is giving powerful military gear HopeAgain Sep 2017 #44
The poster said military gear, not military members. Mariana Sep 2017 #54
Where did you get that idiotic question? denbot Sep 2017 #75
Cause Trump just authorized releasing military hardware to police departments Arazi Sep 2017 #84
I am aware of Trump's intentions. denbot Sep 2017 #85
Sorry, my nerves have been raw the last few days. Revanchist Sep 2017 #107
Sorry to hear that bro/broette.. denbot Sep 2017 #108
Where were "military members" mentioned? Weekend Warrior Sep 2017 #89
Oh, jeez. Iggo Sep 2017 #96
LOL. Really? Downtown Hound Sep 2017 #121
Hello? 1. Sarcasm. 2. Keep up with Trump, okay? WinkyDink Sep 2017 #126
I hope this costs the citizens of Salt Lake City a huge boatload of money TeamPooka Sep 2017 #16
It would be a more effective deterent if it cost the Salt Lake City police department money mythology Sep 2017 #55
Plus the resting officer should actually be arrested for knowingly breaking the law TeamPooka Sep 2017 #97
I hope she sues the crap out of the city. nt Laffy Kat Sep 2017 #18
Do we know when this happened? nt Laffy Kat Sep 2017 #19
Just read up on it. Laffy Kat Sep 2017 #20
Here is a WAPO link to the full story.... hlthe2b Sep 2017 #37
wow, crazy krakfiend Sep 2017 #21
A belated welcome.... SergeStorms Sep 2017 #24
That fucking bastard. A nurse has a difficult enough job. LuckyCharms Sep 2017 #22
And a belated "welcome"... SergeStorms Sep 2017 #26
Thanks very much, SergeStorms... LuckyCharms Sep 2017 #27
I sincerely hope...... SergeStorms Sep 2017 #23
Well said. n/t LuckyCharms Sep 2017 #28
It's worse than that. The cop's lieutenant told him to arrest her. yardwork Sep 2017 #52
Yes it is TeamPooka Sep 2017 #98
I also believe..... SergeStorms Sep 2017 #119
I'm thinking the same thing. I still blame the higher ups in this case. yardwork Sep 2017 #125
He shouldn't be looking for a job mythology Sep 2017 #92
Rec for visibility orangecrush Sep 2017 #25
LEO was older, not a young inexperienced guy, Ilsa Sep 2017 #30
Here in SLC it's unusual for police to run amok like this. defacto7 Sep 2017 #31
This is the aftermath orangecrush Sep 2017 #32
That asshole cop that is kneeling and talking to her... LuckyCharms Sep 2017 #38
To me, that is the worst part. Fascism in action. yardwork Sep 2017 #45
I wish I could think that this kind of behavior was an anomaly, sadly I can't. AJT Sep 2017 #33
This Nurse deserves a Medal! Fyi - this nurse isn't just any nurse-she is a former 2 time Olympian! Pachamama Sep 2017 #35
Not just another pretty face. lpbk2713 Sep 2017 #104
I would refuse too. Lunabell Sep 2017 #36
Also, would HIPAA laws not override all until... LuckyCharms Sep 2017 #39
HIPAA applies to existing records... HopeAgain Sep 2017 #43
In 2016, the U.S. Supreme Court ruled that warrantless blood tests were illegal csziggy Sep 2017 #106
FTP!!!!!!!!!!!!! socialist_n_TN Sep 2017 #46
Dumbass needs to be fired for sure Lee-Lee Sep 2017 #48
Three cops that need to be jobless this morning HAB911 Sep 2017 #50
sue sue sue sue sue sue sue sue sue sue!!!!! samnsara Sep 2017 #51
This sure gives one respect for the police, NOT!!! Wait until Trump loads them up with RKP5637 Sep 2017 #53
These cops do not even realize or care mercuryblues Sep 2017 #57
Gotta wonder dembotoz Sep 2017 #58
It's no different than a cop telling a doctor to remove someone's kidney. Ilsa Sep 2017 #60
Holy shit. Her surpervisor was like "don't attack the messenger" JonLP24 Sep 2017 #62
She would not let the phlebotomist cop draw blood Cicada Sep 2017 #63
She was relaying the hospital policy from her supervisor JonLP24 Sep 2017 #65
Does she have a right to stop an illegal search? Cicada Sep 2017 #82
If they want to arrest somebody arrest her boss on the phone who was telling her what to do JonLP24 Sep 2017 #83
Police can legally do things they should not do Cicada Sep 2017 #91
I can't imagine a case in which the police have the legal right to arrest someone LanternWaste Sep 2017 #93
Nothing that occurred in this situation was legal. WoonTars Sep 2017 #105
Illegally obtained blood, which this would be, is not admissible in court. So WTF is the cop doing?! anneboleyn Sep 2017 #110
Blood was being drawn in preparation for the pending (likely) civil suit... Baconator Sep 2017 #118
You are a cop apologist -- no, he had no right obamanut2012 Sep 2017 #137
Thinking cops can get away with murder isn't apologizing for them Cicada Sep 2017 #139
She is there to protect her patients. MuseRider Sep 2017 #135
Did he show proof that he was a phlebotomist? MiniMe Sep 2017 #95
There was no arrest -- why do you not get that obamanut2012 Sep 2017 #136
I am guessing that this police station has a real problem with its training and establishing SOPs grantcart Sep 2017 #64
Thanks for posting this. Obviously fuck up. Appreciate it if you can keep us posted on the obvious grantcart Sep 2017 #66
Asshole crossed the line big time. There should be a lawsuit dalton99a Sep 2017 #67
The good news is that she will get a nice bonus from the taxpayers of Salt Lake City Renew Deal Sep 2017 #68
She doesn't appear to be suing unless something changes JonLP24 Sep 2017 #71
Trump says exboyfil Sep 2017 #70
I saw this on ZDoggMD ismnotwasm Sep 2017 #72
The truly terrifying thing about this and so many of these kinds of videos is the level of violence. Kentonio Sep 2017 #73
This is what our ☮️ Officers have become.... FarPoint Sep 2017 #77
welcome to trumpworld where the police rule. spanone Sep 2017 #79
This shit has been going on a LOOONG time before Trump......... socialist_n_TN Sep 2017 #80
+1 dalton99a Sep 2017 #86
+1 leftstreet Sep 2017 #90
Trump can pardon the cop ... (see edit) left-of-center2012 Sep 2017 #81
It would be a state charge, and the president can only pardon Federal Offenses. NutmegYankee Sep 2017 #113
My comment was sarcasm left-of-center2012 Sep 2017 #115
I guess it's the problem of Poe's law. NutmegYankee Sep 2017 #117
wow, that's disturbing fishwax Sep 2017 #87
When I was in Nursing school and after I MuseRider Sep 2017 #88
That's the impression I got. The man with the badge didn't like being told no, Demit Sep 2017 #127
Yeah, there was just that MuseRider Sep 2017 #129
I also blame the lieutenant who told him to arrest the nurse. yardwork Sep 2017 #128
You are correct. MuseRider Sep 2017 #130
I read the same as you. I think that there were two things going on. yardwork Sep 2017 #131
I cannot imagine if this had happened MuseRider Sep 2017 #134
When are all these right wing tax hating pukes gonna get tired of using taxpayer money nini Sep 2017 #94
Even if the nurse had let them illegally get the blood sample True_Blue Sep 2017 #99
They can't. Illegal in Utah and illegal per the Supreme Court. Not admissible. anneboleyn Sep 2017 #111
As the patients nurse she has a duty to protect him Tribalceltic Sep 2017 #102
Payne has been suspended from blood-draw duties but remains in his role as a detective in the invest HAB911 Sep 2017 #103
The one silver lining is the more white folks get the "treatment" Blue_Tires Sep 2017 #112
A cop should know when he treestar Sep 2017 #114
Bet he beats his wife frogmarch Sep 2017 #116
That's too useless and wouldn't cause him enough trouble in his life discntnt_irny_srcsm Sep 2017 #122
Well, Detective Jeff Payne has no need for doctors or nurses ever dalton99a Sep 2017 #123
The mystery is solved discntnt_irny_srcsm Sep 2017 #124
I am rather angry at the moment discntnt_irny_srcsm Sep 2017 #120
You are not alone. NutmegYankee Sep 2017 #132
A warrant is so easy to get in SLC, he has fill in the blank form in his car Hamlette Sep 2017 #133
Officer suspended struggle4progress Sep 2017 #138
Suspended. As usual, given a paid vacation... Buns_of_Fire Sep 2017 #141
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