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93. I can't imagine a case in which the police have the legal right to arrest someone

Fri Sep 1, 2017, 11:37 AM

Sep 2017

I can't imagine a case in which the police have the legal right to arrest someone attempting to adhere to local, state and federal laws regarding patient privacy.

Though they may have (arguably) the de-facto legal authority to do so, I'd imagine they do not have the legal right.

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Out of control police officer arrests nurse for refusing to draw blood of unconscious victim. [View all] Drunken Irishman Sep 2017 OP

pure insanity. Hired to enforce the law, not be above it JDC Sep 2017 #1

Another scary thing for the police department is... GeoWilliam750 Sep 2017 #61

Holy shit! Hassin Bin Sober Sep 2017 #2

Here's a local news piece Hassin Bin Sober Sep 2017 #3

Wow. What an ASSHOLE. progressoid Sep 2017 #29

What seems to be missed in all of these discussions is that in the extended body cam recordings GeoWilliam750 Sep 2017 #49

This is chilling. liberalmuse Sep 2017 #59

One of the worst examples of police judgement I have ever seen. Unbelievable. LBM20 Sep 2017 #140

There's a cop who should be fired forthwith. Shame on him. Shrike47 Sep 2017 #4

and this one, too.... SharonClark Sep 2017 #101

well, there is a $1M+ lawsuit right there. lapfog_1 Sep 2017 #5

I bloody hope so. Granny M Sep 2017 #11

+100 Duppers Sep 2017 #12

plus, I didn't hear him read her the Miranda warning diva77 Sep 2017 #13

You only have to mirandize before questioning Revanchist Sep 2017 #40

Thanks for clarification -- here's what Findlaw.com says about it diva77 Sep 2017 #100

Bush pretty much killed Miranda. MrsCoffee Sep 2017 #74

Miranda is actually buried right here in Mesa Cemetary JonLP24 Sep 2017 #76

Lol. MrsCoffee Sep 2017 #78

Police State ....... and Trump wants to give them bigger guns Angry Dragon Sep 2017 #6

Oink oink. nt geek tragedy Sep 2017 #7

Wow! JimGinPA Sep 2017 #8

Fascists was the first word that came to mine.. Kentonio Sep 2017 #69

WTF? Ninsianna Sep 2017 #9

thugs JI7 Sep 2017 #10

Thugs with badges TeamPooka Sep 2017 #17

Typically, law enforcement and hospital staff have a good working relationship GeoWilliam750 Sep 2017 #14

Not a firing offence??? orangecrush Sep 2017 #34

This shit is crazy. She was calmly explaining policy and seeking confirmation from her ATL Ebony Sep 2017 #41

It seems that his supervisor told him to arrest her GeoWilliam750 Sep 2017 #47

I know but then the dialogue stopped and it should have been more discussion about the ATL Ebony Sep 2017 #56

Not a firing offense my fucking ass Downtown Hound Sep 2017 #109

Give that cop some military gear! Yeah! WinkyDink Sep 2017 #15

Why do you say that? Revanchist Sep 2017 #42

The concern is giving powerful military gear HopeAgain Sep 2017 #44

The poster said military gear, not military members. Mariana Sep 2017 #54

Where did you get that idiotic question? denbot Sep 2017 #75

Cause Trump just authorized releasing military hardware to police departments Arazi Sep 2017 #84

I am aware of Trump's intentions. denbot Sep 2017 #85

Sorry, my nerves have been raw the last few days. Revanchist Sep 2017 #107

Sorry to hear that bro/broette.. denbot Sep 2017 #108

Where were "military members" mentioned? Weekend Warrior Sep 2017 #89

Oh, jeez. Iggo Sep 2017 #96

LOL. Really? Downtown Hound Sep 2017 #121

Hello? 1. Sarcasm. 2. Keep up with Trump, okay? WinkyDink Sep 2017 #126

I hope this costs the citizens of Salt Lake City a huge boatload of money TeamPooka Sep 2017 #16

It would be a more effective deterent if it cost the Salt Lake City police department money mythology Sep 2017 #55

Plus the resting officer should actually be arrested for knowingly breaking the law TeamPooka Sep 2017 #97

I hope she sues the crap out of the city. nt Laffy Kat Sep 2017 #18

Do we know when this happened? nt Laffy Kat Sep 2017 #19

Just read up on it. Laffy Kat Sep 2017 #20

Here is a WAPO link to the full story.... hlthe2b Sep 2017 #37

wow, crazy krakfiend Sep 2017 #21

A belated welcome.... SergeStorms Sep 2017 #24

That fucking bastard. A nurse has a difficult enough job. LuckyCharms Sep 2017 #22

And a belated "welcome"... SergeStorms Sep 2017 #26

Thanks very much, SergeStorms... LuckyCharms Sep 2017 #27

I sincerely hope...... SergeStorms Sep 2017 #23

Well said. n/t LuckyCharms Sep 2017 #28

It's worse than that. The cop's lieutenant told him to arrest her. yardwork Sep 2017 #52

Yes it is TeamPooka Sep 2017 #98

I also believe..... SergeStorms Sep 2017 #119

I'm thinking the same thing. I still blame the higher ups in this case. yardwork Sep 2017 #125

He shouldn't be looking for a job mythology Sep 2017 #92

Rec for visibility orangecrush Sep 2017 #25

LEO was older, not a young inexperienced guy, Ilsa Sep 2017 #30

Here in SLC it's unusual for police to run amok like this. defacto7 Sep 2017 #31

This is the aftermath orangecrush Sep 2017 #32

That asshole cop that is kneeling and talking to her... LuckyCharms Sep 2017 #38

To me, that is the worst part. Fascism in action. yardwork Sep 2017 #45

I wish I could think that this kind of behavior was an anomaly, sadly I can't. AJT Sep 2017 #33

This Nurse deserves a Medal! Fyi - this nurse isn't just any nurse-she is a former 2 time Olympian! Pachamama Sep 2017 #35

Not just another pretty face. lpbk2713 Sep 2017 #104

I would refuse too. Lunabell Sep 2017 #36

Also, would HIPAA laws not override all until... LuckyCharms Sep 2017 #39

HIPAA applies to existing records... HopeAgain Sep 2017 #43

In 2016, the U.S. Supreme Court ruled that warrantless blood tests were illegal csziggy Sep 2017 #106

FTP!!!!!!!!!!!!! socialist_n_TN Sep 2017 #46

Dumbass needs to be fired for sure Lee-Lee Sep 2017 #48

Three cops that need to be jobless this morning HAB911 Sep 2017 #50

sue sue sue sue sue sue sue sue sue sue!!!!! samnsara Sep 2017 #51

This sure gives one respect for the police, NOT!!! Wait until Trump loads them up with RKP5637 Sep 2017 #53

These cops do not even realize or care mercuryblues Sep 2017 #57

Gotta wonder dembotoz Sep 2017 #58

It's no different than a cop telling a doctor to remove someone's kidney. Ilsa Sep 2017 #60

Holy shit. Her surpervisor was like "don't attack the messenger" JonLP24 Sep 2017 #62

She would not let the phlebotomist cop draw blood Cicada Sep 2017 #63

She was relaying the hospital policy from her supervisor JonLP24 Sep 2017 #65

Does she have a right to stop an illegal search? Cicada Sep 2017 #82

If they want to arrest somebody arrest her boss on the phone who was telling her what to do JonLP24 Sep 2017 #83

Police can legally do things they should not do Cicada Sep 2017 #91

I can't imagine a case in which the police have the legal right to arrest someone LanternWaste Sep 2017 #93

Nothing that occurred in this situation was legal. WoonTars Sep 2017 #105

Illegally obtained blood, which this would be, is not admissible in court. So WTF is the cop doing?! anneboleyn Sep 2017 #110

Blood was being drawn in preparation for the pending (likely) civil suit... Baconator Sep 2017 #118

You are a cop apologist -- no, he had no right obamanut2012 Sep 2017 #137

Thinking cops can get away with murder isn't apologizing for them Cicada Sep 2017 #139

She is there to protect her patients. MuseRider Sep 2017 #135

Did he show proof that he was a phlebotomist? MiniMe Sep 2017 #95

There was no arrest -- why do you not get that obamanut2012 Sep 2017 #136

I am guessing that this police station has a real problem with its training and establishing SOPs grantcart Sep 2017 #64

Thanks for posting this. Obviously fuck up. Appreciate it if you can keep us posted on the obvious grantcart Sep 2017 #66

Asshole crossed the line big time. There should be a lawsuit dalton99a Sep 2017 #67

The good news is that she will get a nice bonus from the taxpayers of Salt Lake City Renew Deal Sep 2017 #68

She doesn't appear to be suing unless something changes JonLP24 Sep 2017 #71

Trump says exboyfil Sep 2017 #70

I saw this on ZDoggMD ismnotwasm Sep 2017 #72

The truly terrifying thing about this and so many of these kinds of videos is the level of violence. Kentonio Sep 2017 #73

This is what our ☮️ Officers have become.... FarPoint Sep 2017 #77

welcome to trumpworld where the police rule. spanone Sep 2017 #79

This shit has been going on a LOOONG time before Trump......... socialist_n_TN Sep 2017 #80

+1 dalton99a Sep 2017 #86

+1 leftstreet Sep 2017 #90

Trump can pardon the cop ... (see edit) left-of-center2012 Sep 2017 #81

It would be a state charge, and the president can only pardon Federal Offenses. NutmegYankee Sep 2017 #113

My comment was sarcasm left-of-center2012 Sep 2017 #115

I guess it's the problem of Poe's law. NutmegYankee Sep 2017 #117

wow, that's disturbing fishwax Sep 2017 #87

When I was in Nursing school and after I MuseRider Sep 2017 #88

That's the impression I got. The man with the badge didn't like being told no, Demit Sep 2017 #127

Yeah, there was just that MuseRider Sep 2017 #129

I also blame the lieutenant who told him to arrest the nurse. yardwork Sep 2017 #128

You are correct. MuseRider Sep 2017 #130

I read the same as you. I think that there were two things going on. yardwork Sep 2017 #131

I cannot imagine if this had happened MuseRider Sep 2017 #134

When are all these right wing tax hating pukes gonna get tired of using taxpayer money nini Sep 2017 #94

Even if the nurse had let them illegally get the blood sample True_Blue Sep 2017 #99

They can't. Illegal in Utah and illegal per the Supreme Court. Not admissible. anneboleyn Sep 2017 #111

As the patients nurse she has a duty to protect him Tribalceltic Sep 2017 #102

Payne has been suspended from blood-draw duties but remains in his role as a detective in the invest HAB911 Sep 2017 #103

The one silver lining is the more white folks get the "treatment" Blue_Tires Sep 2017 #112

A cop should know when he treestar Sep 2017 #114

Bet he beats his wife frogmarch Sep 2017 #116

That's too useless and wouldn't cause him enough trouble in his life discntnt_irny_srcsm Sep 2017 #122

Well, Detective Jeff Payne has no need for doctors or nurses ever dalton99a Sep 2017 #123

The mystery is solved discntnt_irny_srcsm Sep 2017 #124

I am rather angry at the moment discntnt_irny_srcsm Sep 2017 #120

You are not alone. NutmegYankee Sep 2017 #132

A warrant is so easy to get in SLC, he has fill in the blank form in his car Hamlette Sep 2017 #133

Officer suspended struggle4progress Sep 2017 #138

Suspended. As usual, given a paid vacation... Buns_of_Fire Sep 2017 #141