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81. "He is without question the most pro-gay rights president ever."
Sun Jul 15, 2012, 07:53 PM
Jul 2012

On this, we whole-heartedly agree.

I know the media is breathless with the "blacks are changing their minds since Obama's endorsement" meme, but I am a bit skeptical for many reasons. I've seen the articles that state that this happened in NC and Ohio, but I honestly believe that Black people who were opposed to gay marriage are still so, black people who are in favor of gay marriage are still so. Black people who don't seem to care one way or the other (which studies have shown seem to be the vast majority of blacks) are still so.

We have some discussions in the AA forum regarding this issue and some really interesting points have been raised.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/11871865
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1187&pid=1677

And this is just sort of an interesting post that says that once church attendance from all races was removed, blacks supported gay marriage in California more than any other group http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1187&pid=1649

For the longest time, black folks have heard how "socially conservative" we are and how as such, that was supposed to make us lean more towards the Repub party. Didn't happen. I am immensely proud of President Obama for endorsing gay marriage. But the president notes that it was talking to alot of people, I'm sure more than a few that were black, that helped him to make the statement and reach the perspective that he did. We are capable of our own thoughts on this, as well as any other issue.

This is a beautiful post and I love what you're saying. I'm not trying to derail your points at all. But the whole "blacks are endorsing gay marriage because Obama did" meme just sticks in my craw.

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Highly recommended. stevedeshazer Jul 2012 #1
Excellent response and I hope she was mature enough to read it and learn from it. freshwest Jul 2012 #2
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She did. Mortos Jul 2012 #75
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I love your post, but upon what are you basing this comment? Number23 Jul 2012 #77
Polls show that a there has been a huge swing Mortos Jul 2012 #78
"He is without question the most pro-gay rights president ever." Number23 Jul 2012 #81
so well said! Excellent SemperEadem Jul 2012 #79
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She seemed to get angrier with each subsequent reply. Mortos Jul 2012 #85
Straight GOP talking points from Rush, Beck and Fox. Not an original through out of her. Sick. freshwest Jul 2012 #88
How sad you gave a point by point answer and she has so much hate for the president she southernyankeebelle Jul 2012 #103
I am breaking my silent existence MoonchildCA Jul 2012 #89
I am glad you broke your silence. Mortos Jul 2012 #104
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