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bobbieinok

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Sat Sep 2, 2017, 09:36 AM Sep 2017

Christianity Today's weak article on Houston churches and Harvey [View all]

Article was posted on August 28. It mostly lists Houston churches' prayers and requests for volunteers from churches outside Houston.

The journal is a conservative Christian journal and is a favorite of The Gospel Coalition. TGC is a reformed (ie Calvinist) organisation with strong emphasis on pre-destination, God's complete and total sovreignity, and 'limited atonement.'* It dominates today's Evangelical church and is taking (or maybe has taken) over the Southern Baptist Convention. Many of its members signed the Nashville Statement.

*'Limited atonement' states that Jesus did NOT die for eveyone; he died only for those whom God before the beginning of the universe chose to be saved. So pray The Sinner's Prayer as often as you wish; if you're not predestined to be saved TOUGH.

IMO this belief directly contradicts John 3:16. Also I don't see how with this new belief the SBC can justify the time, money, and energy they want those in the pews to spend (ie waste) on missions and evangelization. But then I'm not the one banking the weekly tithes and offerings.

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What would be the point of churches at all? AJT Sep 2017 #1
To manipulate people njhoneybadger Sep 2017 #5
$$$$$$ n/t NastyRiffraff Sep 2017 #7
Well, somebody has to collect the money dalton99a Sep 2017 #17
I like the idea of limited atonement Not Ruth Sep 2017 #2
So you think no matter how people actually live, they can still be okay with God, because WinkyDink Sep 2017 #8
That does seem to fit with the personality of God. Mariana Sep 2017 #21
I'm Jewish, so can someone enlighten me? choie Sep 2017 #3
It does not. That's the blessing of "interpretation," heh. WinkyDink Sep 2017 #10
Predestination vs. free will njhoneybadger Sep 2017 #4
Where is "predestination" in the Bible? God's foreknowledge is, but that simply means He knows of WinkyDink Sep 2017 #9
Romans 8:28 njhoneybadger Sep 2017 #12
Romans 8 verses 28,30 standingtall Sep 2017 #13
Oh, okay; I sit corrected. But it is NOT the same as "Thus, wealth means favored by God." That is WinkyDink Sep 2017 #22
People are going to live as they wish regardless standingtall Sep 2017 #23
Well, it DOES say "Today" in its title. 'Tis pity 'tis true. Oh, and "saved" means "wealthy." WinkyDink Sep 2017 #6
Totally false to assert that todays Evangelical church is dominated by Calvinist standingtall Sep 2017 #11
SBC being taken over, led by Mohler bobbieinok Sep 2017 #15
You do know that the SBC was originally founded on Calvinistic doctrines? standingtall Sep 2017 #18
From what I have read bobbieinok Sep 2017 #19
Isn't there a Religion & Spirituality forum for this kind of discussion? LAS14 Sep 2017 #14
I posted here because of Harvey and Osteen bobbieinok Sep 2017 #16
its all about the $$. keep your hands off of my stack, jack nt msongs Sep 2017 #20
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