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standingtall

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11. Totally false to assert that todays Evangelical church is dominated by Calvinist
Sat Sep 2, 2017, 10:21 AM
Sep 2017

or those that believe in the doctrines of grace. Jerry Falwell was a well known anti-Calvinist and he like most of today's evangelical church believed in the free will of man over the sovereignty of God. The believe of limited or particular atonement does not contradict John 3:16 read on down to John to 3:18.

In John 17 right before Jesus went to the cross he said this. John 17 verse 9 I pray for them. I pray not for the world,but for them which God has given me; for they are thine.

Those of us who believe he doctrines of grace believe God in all power and all knowing God and therefore logically conclude that God does not fail to save anyone he intends to due to man's so called free will. We don't believe Jesus failed to save anyone he intended to save. We believe he atoned for all of the sins of his elect.

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What would be the point of churches at all? AJT Sep 2017 #1
To manipulate people njhoneybadger Sep 2017 #5
$$$$$$ n/t NastyRiffraff Sep 2017 #7
Well, somebody has to collect the money dalton99a Sep 2017 #17
I like the idea of limited atonement Not Ruth Sep 2017 #2
So you think no matter how people actually live, they can still be okay with God, because WinkyDink Sep 2017 #8
That does seem to fit with the personality of God. Mariana Sep 2017 #21
I'm Jewish, so can someone enlighten me? choie Sep 2017 #3
It does not. That's the blessing of "interpretation," heh. WinkyDink Sep 2017 #10
Predestination vs. free will njhoneybadger Sep 2017 #4
Where is "predestination" in the Bible? God's foreknowledge is, but that simply means He knows of WinkyDink Sep 2017 #9
Romans 8:28 njhoneybadger Sep 2017 #12
Romans 8 verses 28,30 standingtall Sep 2017 #13
Oh, okay; I sit corrected. But it is NOT the same as "Thus, wealth means favored by God." That is WinkyDink Sep 2017 #22
People are going to live as they wish regardless standingtall Sep 2017 #23
Well, it DOES say "Today" in its title. 'Tis pity 'tis true. Oh, and "saved" means "wealthy." WinkyDink Sep 2017 #6
Totally false to assert that todays Evangelical church is dominated by Calvinist standingtall Sep 2017 #11
SBC being taken over, led by Mohler bobbieinok Sep 2017 #15
You do know that the SBC was originally founded on Calvinistic doctrines? standingtall Sep 2017 #18
From what I have read bobbieinok Sep 2017 #19
Isn't there a Religion & Spirituality forum for this kind of discussion? LAS14 Sep 2017 #14
I posted here because of Harvey and Osteen bobbieinok Sep 2017 #16
its all about the $$. keep your hands off of my stack, jack nt msongs Sep 2017 #20
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