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janx

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73. I think there's been some kind of embarrassment on the part of hard righties, especially
Sat Sep 2, 2017, 04:57 PM
Sep 2017

Trump supporters.

The forwarded emails I mentioned in my last post really hit that point home to me. My brother would forward these emails with right-wing talking points, conspiracy theories, guns, etc. to me and to my other brother. Neither of us was remotely interested in them. I noticed, however, that they came from a group of guys my brother had known for some time, from various places, and the forwards seemed to be fairly routine. Nary a female on the list.

A little over a year ago, I reconnected with a guy via Facebook and email whom I hadn't seen in 40 years. Great memories of smoking weed out of an orange by a river at a church retreat, Jack Kerouac, music, etc..He was living and working in Asia. It was fun to chat again. I was curious about the wildlife in Asia, especially the birds, and I discovered that there are enormous fruit bats in the Philippines, "flying foxes," that I thought he ought to know about. I'm a fan of overkill humor, so I kept sending him videos and pictures of these bats. Funny as hell. But he started sending political emails. I sent bats; he sent Hillary and Bernie debating with disparaging comments. He sent other emails, too, but the political group emails increased.

He said he was a Libertarian, capital L.

Then I got an email from him saying that our political views were at opposite ends of the spectrum, and that we should probably not communicate anymore. ?

And shortly after that, he started forwarding me emails with--you guessed it--right-wing talking points, conspiracy theories, guns, etc. Just like the ones from my oldest brother. The list on the emails contained all male names. I recognized a couple of them from high school, but I never really knew those guys. His best buddy from high school, who accompanied us on our river hijinks, was not on the list. It took me awhile to figure this out, but some of those group emails originated with his very elderly father.

It was around that time that I remembered the joke, sometimes posted here, that a libertarian is a republican who smokes pot. I don't know if he does at this point, but I had to laugh--because well, he did.

I also remembered something my right-wing brother told me once: that liberals think conservatives are stupid. That made me wonder if these circles of guys forwarding these things to each other aren't doing it with some kind of clandestine purpose in mind, consciously or unconsciously.

Has anyone else seen this type of behavior? Are these emails some kind of political guy bonding or something?

Recently, I have toyed with the idea of resuming the bat videos and pics--just to catch my old friend off guard.

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Well, janterry Sep 2017 #1
Good advice. OnDoutside Sep 2017 #60
I totally agree. I don't engage with Trump supporters anymore. AgadorSparticus Sep 2017 #68
This is unfortunate, but all too common FakeNoose Sep 2017 #2
Cultists can't easily give up their cult without reprogramming and this is Cult45. nt tblue37 Sep 2017 #35
His identity is fox, if he gives that up, he's no one. lindysalsagal Sep 2017 #91
Maybe it's you who has evolved also . Did you just start to notice he thinks all blacks are on lunasun Sep 2017 #3
Believe it or not louis c Sep 2017 #4
Maybe the 'no evolution'came from his church . Totally wierd if he picked up beliefs like that just lunasun Sep 2017 #6
He may have always believed that, but never said it louis c Sep 2017 #12
Does he watch Fox? Listen to Carr? sharedvalues Sep 2017 #10
Fox, all the time louis c Sep 2017 #23
You can get him back-- highlight Fox's lies sharedvalues Sep 2017 #34
Honestly, this speaks to a larger social problem we seem to have here in the US ck4829 Sep 2017 #26
Interesting. That explains a lot. n/t Beartracks Sep 2017 #62
Oh, and another thing, I have not evolved louis c Sep 2017 #9
I cut off communication with five people HAB911 Sep 2017 #5
Your friend has been a conservative asshole Alpeduez21 Sep 2017 #7
Glad you have been awake all this time. Racism didn't come with trump and anti gay religions lunasun Sep 2017 #32
"The masks are off" Girard442 Sep 2017 #37
Engage on Fox, not on politics sharedvalues Sep 2017 #8
Too bad the Brady part is negated by the team's love for Dump RhodeIslandOne Sep 2017 #21
Why do you even spend a second with this person? pangaia Sep 2017 #11
I feel your pain mdbl Sep 2017 #13
You are in a similar boat as me louis c Sep 2017 #22
I have had to do the same in some circumstances mdbl Sep 2017 #36
These people tend to obsess. Mariana Sep 2017 #63
"He didn't reason his way into it, and you can't reason his way out." mdbl Sep 2017 #96
In my experience, the arguments are not about the facts, but about Doodley Sep 2017 #77
Exactly. Mariana Sep 2017 #97
I understand Books_Tea_Alone Sep 2017 #14
Your brother sounds a little bit like my brother. Bluepinky Sep 2017 #55
Block his number Not Ruth Sep 2017 #15
Life, my patience and my temper are too short, so I avoid them whenever possible Siwsan Sep 2017 #16
I have a few friends like this... WaitWut Sep 2017 #17
Very sensible! You are a good example of how to deal with political differences. Doodley Sep 2017 #79
I feel for you. It's a tough situation, particularly when it's someone you love who has smirkymonkey Sep 2017 #18
Sometimes I have second thoughts about LuckyCharms Sep 2017 #19
Yes. My childhood friend we're both 70 now. rickford66 Sep 2017 #20
I'm sorry for your loss, but that relationship has died...we all grieve on different timelines. Moostache Sep 2017 #24
I had to block contact from a lifelong friend. yardwork Sep 2017 #25
You basically lost your friend to a cult Snake Plissken Sep 2017 #27
Yes. To get him back, need to break out of Fox cult. sharedvalues Sep 2017 #52
I live with one, my father ebbie15644 Sep 2017 #28
Yep. Baitball Blogger Sep 2017 #29
Yup, been there - done that. BlueIdaho Sep 2017 #30
My inlaws are rural conservatives Cosmocat Sep 2017 #31
Yes, my good friend and her sister who is also my friend. Known for 40 years. Fla Dem Sep 2017 #33
Yep those kind always like to say " Oh we don't mean you , you're different " lunasun Sep 2017 #71
this is war IAMSPARTICUS Sep 2017 #38
It isn't war. It is America. America has been this way for a long time. Doodley Sep 2017 #82
Yes I do just no more contact till after trump is impeached. classykaren Sep 2017 #39
The worst thing about twitlers election was how he has divided long term family and friends kimbutgar Sep 2017 #40
Your friend has been Fauxed randr Sep 2017 #41
xxx THIS HAS WORKED FOR ME xxx uponit7771 Sep 2017 #42
Liberals and Trumpinistas both trust...who? The Weather Channel? Girard442 Sep 2017 #46
Rolling Stone, Newsweek, Fortune and some other right wing sources that are scorching Trump uponit7771 Sep 2017 #48
Sadly I've lost some lifetime friends samplegirl Sep 2017 #43
send him this azureblue Sep 2017 #44
My sister and I used to be close in political ideology WhiteTara Sep 2017 #45
What is all this hatred of Jill Stein voters? Doodley Sep 2017 #83
I certainly don't hate Jill or her supporters WhiteTara Sep 2017 #88
You just can't talk to those people SCantiGOP Sep 2017 #47
I think this guy can be turned back. Doodley Sep 2017 #84
So you wouldn't suggest I say SCantiGOP Sep 2017 #90
Try these kind of phrases that force him to agree with you: Doodley Sep 2017 #95
They've been indoctrinated thoroughly by Murdoch's Faux News Texin Sep 2017 #49
"The Brainwashing of My Dad" documentary trailer Equinox Moon Sep 2017 #50
Tell him you don't want to be friends anymore. pamela Sep 2017 #51
+ 1 this is a good idea . Look at the history of Germany and how the Nazi movement grew with in lunasun Sep 2017 #72
A major difference is Hitler's following grew, but Trump's is shrinking. Doodley Sep 2017 #85
Best response in the thread. Thank you. nt Atticus Sep 2017 #74
Well he's also a big racist and that would have been a deal breaker for me. bettyellen Sep 2017 #53
It seems like neither of you is going to change the other. So... Stonepounder Sep 2017 #54
Yes, I have the same problem. lucca18 Sep 2017 #56
Maybe science Corgigal Sep 2017 #57
Good for you, and for your friend. Bruno Mars will be a blast! Doodley Sep 2017 #86
Don't talk politics, love the swear jar idea iamateacher Sep 2017 #58
My sisters boyfriend MFM008 Sep 2017 #59
Listen, say nothing....and Dan Sep 2017 #61
I'm 62 & lost a good friend I'd had since I was 13. catbyte Sep 2017 #64
No Offense Intended ProfessorGAC Sep 2017 #65
I am with you... all the way. nt Kleveland Sep 2017 #78
righties always moving the goal posts superpatriotman Sep 2017 #66
I cut them out of my life nini Sep 2017 #67
I lost a brother. janx Sep 2017 #69
No way my "best friend" could support Trump, because I would find a new one. Easy! n/t USALiberal Sep 2017 #70
I think there's been some kind of embarrassment on the part of hard righties, especially janx Sep 2017 #73
"Best friend" and "Trump supporter" don't belong in the same sentence. nt Atticus Sep 2017 #75
Not specifically. I don't drink, and that helps a lot Warpy Sep 2017 #76
It's unfortunate your friend is such a racist. SHRED Sep 2017 #80
WHO'S YOUR DADDY Goonch Sep 2017 #81
Dumping Trumpers and forcing them to be only with like-minded people does not help. Doodley Sep 2017 #87
I know people that are good human beings. Blue_true Sep 2017 #89
I'm in the same boat as you.. mitch96 Sep 2017 #92
Most of my family members are very conservative. Willie Pep Sep 2017 #93
Suggestion: Give it a year or so... KY_EnviroGuy Sep 2017 #94
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