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In reply to the discussion: Jill Stein looped into widening investigation of Russia and Trump Jr. connections [View all]BainsBane
(57,751 posts)The re-election of Trump? The deportation of 788,000 DACA youth? Stripping millions of Ameircans of health care? White Nationalism? How the FUCK do you think there is any unity between Stein and Democrats? In what fucking universe do you think any Democrat shares a thing in common with Stein?
What do you imagine we would be unified around?
This is an article about the Stein being drawn into the investigation regarding Russian collusion is the SUBVERSION of democracy and the democratic rights of American citizens. She is somehow involved in the emails between Don Jr and the Russian lawyers. As much as you may want to hold certain multi-millionaires above the law that is not my position or that of most people who value equality and justice.
Stein worked for the election of Donald Trump. She gives cover to the GOP by lying about Democrats, for example tweeting claims that Democrats are to blame for passing bills that not a single Democrat voted for. She is a multi-millioniaire who conned vulnerable Americans out of enormous sums of money and pocketed $10 million for herself from her recount scam. She takes money from RT, and miraculously managed to run enormously expensive campaign ads right before the election, something prohibitively expensive for third party candidates.
She's also an imbecile who repeats every piece of Kremlin propaganda and nut job conspiracy theory she comes across. Case in point:
https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2017/06/jill-stein-is-starting-to-sound-a-lot-like-donald-trump
Not content with her efforts to kill generations of American children through ensuring epidemics of deadly diseases through her anti-vax putsch, she turned to undermining democracy itself.
To unify with Stein IS to unify with Donald Trump.
You seem to think people unify around labels. Labels mean NOTHING. What matters is actions, what people do to improve the lives of the poor and the vulnerable. Unity means joining together to ACT toward common goals. Stein acts in ways that worsens the lives of those populations. Those who voted for her and don't regret it, intend to continue voting Green, and continue working to ensure Democrats stay out of office likewise act in ways that do demonstrable harm to the subaltern. Their singular focus is their own egos, their own sense of entitlement. That makes them at least as bad as any banker or corporate CEO.
You can throw around the word progressive all day long. It doesn't mean anything unless it's accompanied by efforts to move the country in forward in ways the benefit the poor and the oppressed--not the rich, the upper-middle class, but the poor and marginalized. It certainly doesn't involved the continual defenses of extremely wealthy con artists and corporate media profiteers that seems to constitute the singular focus of those whose political discourse begins and ends with labels. That is when they aren't busy working on voter disenfranchisement (like Nokimi Konst's effort to replace primaries with caucuses) and undermining the Democratic Party's support for civil rights and reproductive rights.
788,000 DACA youth are awaiting their fate this weekend, to see if they've been expelled from the only country they've ever known, but you decide what must be defended is a multi-millionaire con artist. Why? Because she claims to be progressive? Because she uses your favorite label?
And as for the Stein voters who don't regret their role in delivering the country to fascism, they can go fuck themselves with their Tiki Torches and swastikas. Their hoods have dropped, and we see exactly what they are.
No, I won't be unifying with around White Nationalism and the re-election of Trump.