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MineralMan

(152,043 posts)
44. I know. I feel the same way.
Mon Sep 4, 2017, 12:34 PM
Sep 2017

Before taking a hard line on a particular candidate for any office, it's important to consider the alternative if that candidate loses. A lot depends on where you live, really. While the choice in any general election is really binary, the effects of a Republican win are so negative that even an iffy Democrat is almost always a much better choice.

It's fine, in progressive states and districts, to work hard to get the most progressive candidate possible to the General Election, but that only applies where such a candidate has a strong chance to win. If that's not the case, then finding a Democrat who can actually win and who will vote as a Democrat is far more important than any single issue.

I'm still waiting for any candidate with whom I agree on every issue. I expect to die waiting for such a candidate. In the meantime, I'm voting for the better candidate who can win in every election and in every district. That better candidate is always a Democrat.

I have zero patience for those who let single issues dictate their vote. If I did that, I'd never be able to vote. I have lots of issues that are very important to me. But, the general direction of government overrides each of them at times. I want movement in the direction I think is best. I will never get that if a Republican wins. Never.

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they could vote down ticket treestar Sep 2017 #1
If they don't come to the polling place, we all lose. MineralMan Sep 2017 #3
You have to start by dropping the 'didn't bother to' leftstreet Sep 2017 #2
I disagree. Those who "don't bother to vote" are a big part of MineralMan Sep 2017 #4
'How do we get nonvoters to vote?' That's all it needs to be leftstreet Sep 2017 #6
So, you didn't answer my question. Do you know people MineralMan Sep 2017 #7
Oh Gawdz yes! leftstreet Sep 2017 #12
OK. Then, it sounds like your work is cut out for you in 2018 and 2020. MineralMan Sep 2017 #13
Spot on. cwydro Sep 2017 #11
yet they are being irresponsible treestar Sep 2017 #5
How to recruit 'irresponsible, ignorant, lazy' people to vote leftstreet Sep 2017 #10
convince them of how valuable it is treestar Sep 2017 #15
You do it by talking to them and addressing their MineralMan Sep 2017 #16
If you make no choice you are really saying "go ahead, you can make my choice for me" FM123 Sep 2017 #8
Don't "know" anyone personally thank goodness. cwydro Sep 2017 #9
I know people who wrote in "Bernie Sanders" in the general oberliner Sep 2017 #14
Yes. I know a couple who voted for Jill Stein for the same reasons. MineralMan Sep 2017 #18
In some states it actually didn't matter oberliner Sep 2017 #20
And yet, exactly that happened in WI, MI, and PA. MineralMan Sep 2017 #28
I'm hoping that idea dies- because many voted for Trump thinking their vote wouldn't matter- as a bettyellen Sep 2017 #32
There were some here who posted they'd do exactly that. cwydro Sep 2017 #21
People died to secure and protect our right to vote. lapucelle Sep 2017 #17
Yes. That's a good way to appeal to some people. MineralMan Sep 2017 #19
I also send first time voters to OnTheIssues.org lapucelle Sep 2017 #24
Good idea! MineralMan Sep 2017 #25
I just had this talk with my partner. neeksgeek Sep 2017 #22
Thanks! MineralMan Sep 2017 #23
I thought she was going to vote in 2016. neeksgeek Sep 2017 #49
I know a few in CA marlakay Sep 2017 #26
Here in Minnesota, Hillary won, despite people MineralMan Sep 2017 #27
No one should ever think they can sit it out radical noodle Sep 2017 #33
Exactly. Tell them that. MineralMan Sep 2017 #37
We're voting here in NY in November lapucelle Sep 2017 #46
The people I know should have learned this all on their own by now lunatica Sep 2017 #29
Well, maybe they have learned something and are worth MineralMan Sep 2017 #34
Too much water under that bridge lunatica Sep 2017 #41
Yes, I do radical noodle Sep 2017 #30
Ask them how they feel now. MineralMan Sep 2017 #35
my fucking mother in law bdtrppr6 Sep 2017 #31
That's the only person you know who did that? MineralMan Sep 2017 #36
From the map it looks like we hafe it tough hfojvt Sep 2017 #38
Here's something to think about: In Georgia, MineralMan Sep 2017 #40
and presumably there was a GOTV effort hfojvt Sep 2017 #45
Yes. I do expect to get more. MineralMan Sep 2017 #47
Yes - in Pennsylvania Tree-Hugger Sep 2017 #39
Exactly. Three states with very, very narrow Trump victories. MineralMan Sep 2017 #42
Sick to my stomach... HipChick Sep 2017 #43
I know. I feel the same way. MineralMan Sep 2017 #44
The Australian way is the easiest -- if you don't vote you have to pay a fine. Nay Sep 2017 #48
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