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73. Several problems with easy analyses like that

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1) nothing in that article refutes the germane points of Bains' post.

2) the UK, Israel and Germany are different systems of government - there is no electoral college. Clinton lost three critical states by 1 point and won the popular vote by 3 million ( or 2.9) As Nate Silver rightly observed, before the Comey letter hit Clinton looked as though she would win those states by 2 points. If she had she would have won the election and her strategy looks great. And that article you post would not have been written.

2) selectively choosing what a few people said in an exit poll is not the full picture - that's pushing a narrative and a meme. Clinton voters were hardly profiled last year- fact. I can find different, more positive, assessments of Hillary the candidate.

3) the "hectoring housewife" - you mean she dared ask how shit will get done in debate scenarios where the moderators, and media, couldn't be arsed to ask those questions and where the election itself became a shit circus show?

4) "it didn't help she ran her campaign as a third Obama term" "piggyback his popularity" - how did Bush Snr run his campaign after Reagan? Did he distance himself from Reagan? it was an election about the continuation of democratic leadership for a third term, it was about incumbency. How did this need to be pointed out? That article is antagonistic spin.

And none of this excuses mistakes the Clinton campaign made , as Charlie P wrote it was an average campaign but not the worst he's ever seen as some love to claim. Clinton herself admits to flaws. I wasn't happy with all of it , there were times I wanted Clinton to go more on the offense, there were times I wanted her to control the narrative better, EDIT: Most importantly, I wanted the Democratic Party to have a response to weaponized AI and data analytics used by the Mercers, we lost the meme wars...

...... but the reality also is that her opponent was and remains a fascistic sexual predator. Voters bear responsibility for the choices they make.

And Clinton herself was far from terrible - count me in as a young female who finds her an inspiration and women I knew who were even skeptical of her before the election grew to admire and respect her as the campaign wore on, particularly in the debates.