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In reply to the discussion: For All who didn't support Hillary Clinton in the general...who complained about her on various [View all]zipplewrath
(16,698 posts)There were two large movements of sorts in Europe in the 1930, Communism/Socialism and Fascism. In Europe, the former "won" out to a great degree, in part because of the war basically wiping out the latter. Plus, considering the desperate condition of much of Europe, collective action was about the only way they'd survive. Plus, the US was heavily involved in their recovery and creating markets for US products.
Here in the US, there was a huge backlash towards the Communistic and Socialistic movements. It basically dominated politics for 50+ years. What got caught up in all of that was a fear of collective action like labor unions, social security, public health care, etc. The end result is that the US never spent much time fighting fascism internally and thus we find ourselves moving towards it as a solution to the very problems that corrective action was, and can, address.
We find ourselves fighting over the outcome of one election, of one candidate, and ignoring the trend that has been playing out since 1980, which is a steady slide towards authoritarianism. As is suggested, Trump was coming one way or another and any democratic president was going to be little more than a bump in the road, as have the last two democratic presidents. Really, 16 years later what are the enduring outcoming of the Clinton presidency? The GOP destroyed the budget almost as soon as they took over (deficits don't matter). They moved towards war on a global scale. Peace in the middle east has never been further away. 9/11, North Korea, Afghanistan, China, all are vastly worse. We'll of course see what will come of Obama's accomplishments but it is plain that the effort across the GOP is to undo as much as possible, as quickly as possible. Heck, they are hell bent to undo the Great Society and the New Deal.
We're going to have to figure out a way to reverse this trend, and something tells me Jill Stein has nothing to do with it.