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NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
86. That's SO disrespectful!
Tue Sep 5, 2017, 07:05 PM
Sep 2017
My fear about her intentions in writing this is that she wants to anathemize not only Bernie but his supporters and all that they fight for-other than on the level of powerless, disconnected irrelevant individuals who would never get their say on anything. It also sounds like she wants to make sure the next platform we run on has no influence from any Sanders or Sanders-like ideas, going back to the tried-and-always-failed method of giving nothing to progressives and then just demanding their support.
Spreading rumors and falsehoods about her intentions is so wrong. That's such an absurd notion and it needs to stop. What's with all this "victimhood"??

Why would you ascribe all the HORRIBLE attributes to Hillary. What purpose does it serve to speculate about Hillary having such nefarious and evil motivations? Such disrespect!

Why didn't she, instead of writing THOSE words, talk about the need to find common ground between Sanders and Clinton people, to treat each other with mutual respect, and to work together towards the future for victory?
Because she has a story to tell. What's with all this "instead of" nonsense? Why are you trying to silence her? Why are you trying to characterize what she DOES have to say as being worthless or of little value? That's disrespectful, too.

And to ask why she felt it necessary to publish those particular words.
Because she wanted to tell her story. Why do you object to that? Why are you second-guessing her and sniping from the sidelines? That's not very respectful.

#LetHerSpeak
#ShowSomeRespect

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"If we allow the perfect to be the enemy of the good, we'll lose again" oasis Sep 2017 #1
That is a horrible quote. Ken Burch Sep 2017 #2
That's not "code", it's how you choose to interpret the message. oasis Sep 2017 #9
We can't just leave the grassroots with no say. Ken Burch Sep 2017 #11
"Viable" solutions to the needs of poor and working class oasis Sep 2017 #16
The DEMOCRATIC grassroots preferred HRC and that's why she was the DEMOCRATIC nominee. Expecting Rain Sep 2017 #70
The grassroots were not saying there should be no change. Ken Burch Sep 2017 #76
Yes we in DEMOCRATIC grassroots wanted change, like having a super-smart woman on the Oval Office Expecting Rain Sep 2017 #78
I campaigned for HRC in the fall as did the vast majority of Sanders supporters Ken Burch Sep 2017 #91
You just can't resist the insults and slurs aimed at DEMOCRATS that are almost... Expecting Rain Sep 2017 #94
No insults and no slurs, and I'm as much of a DEMOCRAT as you are. Ken Burch Sep 2017 #103
Don't try to play us, Ken Expecting Rain Sep 2017 #108
I didn't say she supported it. I said she largely left it unchallenged. Ken Burch Sep 2017 #118
A distinction without a difference. Expecting Rain Sep 2017 #121
She was attacked by Trump, not by Sanders people. Ken Burch Sep 2017 #127
The answer to economic challenges will never be found in cheap theatrics... Expecting Rain Sep 2017 #133
They can't be found in tiny changes. Ken Burch Sep 2017 #136
IMO this is just more empty demogogery Ken, of the sort that's... Expecting Rain Sep 2017 #141
Us? shanny Sep 2017 #162
Just not "that woman" mcar Sep 2017 #100
Just not the least progressive person we could have nominated. Ken Burch Sep 2017 #107
Who are you talking about? mcar Sep 2017 #109
And I supported her in the fall Ken Burch Sep 2017 #112
Comey, Russia, the media, sexism mcar Sep 2017 #116
Did you mention "sexism"? lapucelle Sep 2017 #122
She didn't lose any progressive votes due to sexism. Ken Burch Sep 2017 #123
Considering the rhetoric of some *not all* mcar Sep 2017 #129
I condemn any website that would do that. Ken Burch Sep 2017 #134
Thanks but I already said that mcar Sep 2017 #137
I agree that what those people are doing is stupid and wrong. Ken Burch Sep 2017 #140
Well there we are in agreement mcar Sep 2017 #143
Did you really say that Clinton was the "least progressive person we could have nominated"? Really? George II Sep 2017 #115
I didn't say she wasn't progressive on anything. Ken Burch Sep 2017 #131
You didn't say "moderate" (what's wrong with that anyway?), you said "least progressive". George II Sep 2017 #146
Same thing. Ken Burch Sep 2017 #148
"Significantly progressive" isn't "moderate". So, if you had five true progressives in a room.... George II Sep 2017 #149
If there message was "I'm the only one who's not 'too liberal' to win". Ken Burch Sep 2017 #150
Uh...HRC is a liberal (and a great one). When one moves away from liberalism... Expecting Rain Sep 2017 #158
Define "radical leftist ideology". HughBeaumont Sep 2017 #184
HRC was the "least progressive" person the DEMOCRATIC Party... Expecting Rain Sep 2017 #154
You're right about that! NurseJackie Sep 2017 #163
I'm not attacking the party Ken Burch Sep 2017 #172
When compared with populists on the right and on the left... Expecting Rain Sep 2017 #174
True, was a big Elizabeth supporter... then threw my support to Bernie when she didn't run... InAbLuEsTaTe Sep 2017 #153
The Democratic party base is AA, POC and women mcar Sep 2017 #96
Some feel that "the leadership of the Democratic Party" guillaumeb Sep 2017 #33
Obama and Dems were in the driver's seat in 2008. oasis Sep 2017 #48
It's not as simple as putting it down to voter complacency. Ken Burch Sep 2017 #53
Yes, voters should vote in every election. guillaumeb Sep 2017 #55
I'm retired but have maintained my membership oasis Sep 2017 #67
Pretty simple, actually. Eliot Rosewater Sep 2017 #90
Nothing Obama did was good enough mcar Sep 2017 #102
That. Thanks for emphasizing a voter's responsibility -- learn the issues and VOTE! ATL Ebony Sep 2017 #139
It's really that easy mcar Sep 2017 #142
I know, it really is that simple vs finding issues to spotlight then use a bully pit to force ATL Ebony Sep 2017 #147
Message auto-removed Name removed Sep 2017 #58
Welcome to DU. guillaumeb Sep 2017 #60
Why? shanny Sep 2017 #161
By 2020, those who looked in the mirror after biting off their noses oasis Sep 2017 #166
But you want to silence her. You don't want debate, you want everyone to take your position lunamagica Sep 2017 #47
I don't want to silence her. And I do want debate. Ken Burch Sep 2017 #89
Then there is Nina Turner sowing division. sheshe2 Sep 2017 #173
No, that is the message. Hillary's book is her story and it is full of facts and honest perspective haveahart Sep 2017 #83
Which book? Weekend Warrior Sep 2017 #3
You know the one I'm talking about. Ken Burch Sep 2017 #4
I promise that I know the one you are talking about. Weekend Warrior Sep 2017 #5
My point is that no one should be dividing us. Ken Burch Sep 2017 #7
That's not how it works. That's not how any of it works. Weekend Warrior Sep 2017 #8
I'm not a former Democratic nominee. I wrote that years later, maybe decades later. Ken Burch Sep 2017 #12
"I'm not a former Democratic nominee." Weekend Warrior Sep 2017 #14
It's simply math. We can't get those peoples' votes by forcing them to abandon all group identity Ken Burch Sep 2017 #21
I truly can't make sense of this. Weekend Warrior Sep 2017 #25
We can't ask for their support if our party ends up blaming 2016 on Bernie. Ken Burch Sep 2017 #124
No Way What Nina & The Others Want Need To Be Taken To Account Me. Sep 2017 #35
There are many books. Which one do you mean? MineralMan Sep 2017 #6
So why be coy about the fact that you are (once again) trashing Hillary Clinton? Expecting Rain Sep 2017 #72
I assume this is about Clinton's book where she said that Bernie's attacks probably hurt her. Willie Pep Sep 2017 #10
Yes Ken Burch Sep 2017 #13
Ignoring reality "hurts the party". NurseJackie Sep 2017 #19
Hillary can't BE silenced. It's just that she has no reason to attack Bernie. Ken Burch Sep 2017 #22
"And I've been nothing but respectful to Hillary. " Weekend Warrior Sep 2017 #26
I made one comment about Kamala two years ago. Ken Burch Sep 2017 #69
LET HER SPEAK!! She's not attacking anyone. NurseJackie Sep 2017 #29
"November was ten months ago". Tell that to the DREAMers lunamagica Sep 2017 #57
I agree that an injustice is being done to the DREAMers. Ken Burch Sep 2017 #71
Because it sounds like you are telling people "get over it". You know what? They can't. Futire? they lunamagica Sep 2017 #80
I would never tell DREAMers to "get over it" Ken Burch Sep 2017 #82
Amen, luna mcar Sep 2017 #135
The book in question is a personal memoir. lapucelle Sep 2017 #104
We need unity and dialog to win. Ken Burch Sep 2017 #110
It seemed to me that the OP lapucelle Sep 2017 #117
I posted that because I'm scared that that passage will keep us divided and drive Sanders people off Ken Burch Sep 2017 #120
"How does what was said in that book lapucelle Sep 2017 #126
The implications are that blaming Bernie for the defeat when it wasn't his fault Ken Burch Sep 2017 #128
She doesn't blame him. lapucelle Sep 2017 #144
Yeah, Let's Talk About Nina Me. Sep 2017 #36
Except what she's saying isn't objectively true mythology Sep 2017 #88
"...reach out to each other in a positive way..." lapucelle Sep 2017 #97
He never conceded. And his "support" was lukewarn at best lunamagica Sep 2017 #52
Correct. NurseJackie Sep 2017 #81
A purity test, and enthusiasm meter. shanny Sep 2017 #165
Sanders should release his tax returns JI7 Sep 2017 #15
Man, do we need the primaries forum back more than ever before Blue_Adept Sep 2017 #17
I was arguing here that the primaries should NOT be brought back up. Ken Burch Sep 2017 #24
Your point is forward looking and I agree attacking Bernie serves no purpose other than to divide... InAbLuEsTaTe Sep 2017 #155
LOL! How does ignoring reality "help at all?" NurseJackie Sep 2017 #18
Do you WANT us to win in '18 and '20? Ken Burch Sep 2017 #28
LET HER SPEAK!! NurseJackie Sep 2017 #30
She can't be STOPPED from speaking. Ken Burch Sep 2017 #38
So why keep trying to silence her? NurseJackie Sep 2017 #42
Message auto-removed Name removed Sep 2017 #61
Democrats are unified. I chose my words carefully and deliberately. NurseJackie Sep 2017 #64
I'm active in my local DNC and a member lapucelle Sep 2017 #111
I know! That's what I'm seeing too. In the REAL WORLD... NurseJackie Sep 2017 #114
I believe I see where you are confused icymist Sep 2017 #95
Thank you! Thank you very much! (And some try to describe them as "the base"!!) NurseJackie Sep 2017 #130
Funny how Clinton is expected to toe the line in the name of unity, but others aren't. George II Sep 2017 #196
I'd hoped Warren would run, and that was me until I learned more about both of them. Hortensis Sep 2017 #20
Not at all Break time Sep 2017 #23
Are you denying Hillary's right to provide her perspective on What Happened to her seaglass Sep 2017 #27
That is EXACTLY what's happening here! NurseJackie Sep 2017 #31
Nobody's oppressing her. Ken Burch Sep 2017 #34
LET HER SPEAK!! (Now! Not "eight to twelve years from now".) NurseJackie Sep 2017 #40
Why do you keep saying "Let Her Speak!"?. She DID speak. I'm responding. Ken Burch Sep 2017 #46
I say "Let Her Speak" because someone keeps questioning whether it's "necessary" for her to speak. NurseJackie Sep 2017 #56
I can't deny Hillary the right to do anything, nor would I. Ken Burch Sep 2017 #32
Oh, please! Stop Slamming Hillary! NurseJackie Sep 2017 #37
She's not a victim, for Goddess' sake. Ken Burch Sep 2017 #41
Stop insulting Hillary. Please. (Show some respect. Let her speak.) NurseJackie Sep 2017 #43
It's not as though she can only say what she wants if no one responds. Ken Burch Sep 2017 #50
Show some respect, please. She deserves that much! NurseJackie Sep 2017 #59
I didn't stop her from saying anything or stop anyone from reading anything. Ken Burch Sep 2017 #66
Well... NurseJackie Sep 2017 #73
And she has already been heard. People have heard the excerpts and they will buy the book anyway. Ken Burch Sep 2017 #75
To my knowledge, the book hasn't been released yet... NurseJackie Sep 2017 #77
I stand corrected on the book release date. Ken Burch Sep 2017 #87
Changing the subject and deflecting. NurseJackie Sep 2017 #98
I mentioned the Green and JPR things because you've repeatedly implied Ken Burch Sep 2017 #101
No I haven't. NurseJackie Sep 2017 #106
I voted for Clinton but I'm neither a Clinton or Sanders' supporter underthematrix Sep 2017 #39
Ken, have you ever said that Bernie should take the high road? seaglass Sep 2017 #54
I have called on Bernie to take the high road. Ken Burch Sep 2017 #85
Yes... those voters are "idiots" exactly as you stated. NurseJackie Sep 2017 #113
OF COURSE Hillary has the right 2 express her views; no reasonable person cud possibly dispute that. InAbLuEsTaTe Sep 2017 #157
I'm not convinced Team Clinton or presumed successors actually believe that Sen. Walter Sobchak Sep 2017 #44
Thanks for that. You've made one of the most sensible posts in this thread. Ken Burch Sep 2017 #68
You got it exactly right... and the irony is Hillary blames Bernie for dividing Democrats. InAbLuEsTaTe Sep 2017 #156
Yep GaryCnf Sep 2017 #79
And how does your OP help? does it help at all lunamagica Sep 2017 #45
It won't make the feelings arise...they are there...but why encourage them? Ken Burch Sep 2017 #65
That's SO disrespectful! NurseJackie Sep 2017 #86
Such a long and verbose reply, Ken. Yet not a word relating to the questions I asked you lunamagica Sep 2017 #92
My OP is about encouraging a positive path forward. Ken Burch Sep 2017 #99
I have a great idea. Why don't you send all your posts on the thread and send it lunamagica Sep 2017 #159
How do Bernie's constant attacks on the Democratic Party help unity and victory? nt Maven Sep 2017 #49
Well, that's "different". NurseJackie Sep 2017 #62
NurseJackie.... skylucy Sep 2017 #145
Thank you! NurseJackie Sep 2017 #151
Does she talk about Russians/election tampering in the book? leftstreet Sep 2017 #51
She damn sure talked about it during the campaign. But guess who was not listening? Guess who was haveahart Sep 2017 #84
respectfully clu Sep 2017 #171
Fyi haveahart Sep 2017 #175
A very rational thing to say.......and it took a lot of courage to say it on DU! LongTomH Sep 2017 #63
Yup Egnever Sep 2017 #74
Wonder if what helps is that we can learn from our mistakes? George II Sep 2017 #93
This bit isn't about her mistakes. Ken Burch Sep 2017 #125
Thank you. Yes we DO need all the voters, primary and otherwise, elleng Sep 2017 #105
I'll always vote for the DEM, I don't care if Hillary Clinton badmouths my Berniebro ass . m-lekktor Sep 2017 #119
I respect your attitude. Ken Burch Sep 2017 #132
You are right we need both sets of voters to win. LostOne4Ever Sep 2017 #138
Yes, please get the message to Hillary. InAbLuEsTaTe Sep 2017 #152
yup, we do. shanny Sep 2017 #160
Oh, the OHenry-esque irony of it all! NanceGreggs Sep 2017 #164
Damn! I've missed you. William769 Sep 2017 #168
Right back at ya!!! NanceGreggs Sep 2017 #169
100% that. oasis Sep 2017 #170
Many Democrats, Independents and some Republicans didn't ban1941 Sep 2017 #180
You didn't vote. You should be fucking embarrassed. N/t tammywammy Sep 2017 #183
+1 dalton99a Sep 2017 #186
Forget it, Ken. They want a ventfest. You won't talk them down off it. Jim Lane Sep 2017 #167
Right cilla4progress Sep 2017 #176
You're right, but too many will not want to hear it. TDale313 Sep 2017 #177
This is 100% accurate. WIProgressive88 Sep 2017 #179
I fully expect the Democrats to lose big in 2018 and for Trump to be reelected. alarimer Sep 2017 #187
Hillary is not interested in uniting the party, and neither are most of her supporters on this WIProgressive88 Sep 2017 #178
The sniping has got to stop! ban1941 Sep 2017 #182
I am really looking forward to reading this book Gothmog Sep 2017 #181
Vote for the democratic candidates in 2018 and 2020 liquid diamond Sep 2017 #185
I wasn't doing any blackmail Ken Burch Sep 2017 #188
LOL NurseJackie Sep 2017 #189
You do not own the term progressive. Expecting Rain Sep 2017 #190
I don't think it should have been about exalting Bernie. Ken Burch Sep 2017 #191
I think a lot us us tuned into the Convention and saw delegates (presumably not fringe Bernie Bros) Expecting Rain Sep 2017 #194
Thank you! You're correct. It *IS* laughable. NurseJackie Sep 2017 #192
We will need everybody to defeat Pubbie voter suppression. MaeScott Sep 2017 #193
I agree we need both. The "We've got this" approach does not work. jalan48 Sep 2017 #195
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