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TalkingDog

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87. You have to wait for saturation to see if Bain or the offshore $$ is going to make any difference.

Mon Jul 16, 2012, 07:02 AM

Jul 2012

And by saturation I mean when Jay Leno and David Letterman start cracking wise on the subject.

When it reaches the level where those jokes are understood by that varied of an audience, it means they understand the content and context of the information; whether they agree with it or not.

If that doesn't happen, then you may be right. It might be too esoteric. But if it does, that's when you should look for the polls to start shifting.

As far as the strength of the message, I don't agree. NC (where I live) is a battleground state and the earlier Bain/Outsourcing Ads running here are shifting the polls. Only slightly so far, but there is movement.

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TPM: New Obama ad is "in a league of its own" according to film directors [View all] highplainsdem Jul 2012 OP

Can I get a link to the "Firms" commercial? loudsue Jul 2012 #1

Here: ProSense Jul 2012 #3

32 second soundbite bites Mitt in the ass Generic Other Jul 2012 #50

"I wonder how the other side perceives it" Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2012 #80

Undecided voters are the ones who "must be persuaded" nxylas Jul 2012 #84

This is definitely going to be an Obama vs. Not Obama election Ian_rd Jul 2012 #95

Gives me chills, too. Best political ad I've seen in many years. highplainsdem Jul 2012 #59

I said that the first time I saw it. Looks like an ad we'll see replayed in the future as an example Honeycombe8 Jul 2012 #76

Romney's voice takes on a creepier tone as each frame goes by. Maraya1969 Jul 2012 #109

Amazing ad. Simple and concise. It's extraordinarily well done. Number23 Jul 2012 #77

whoa. sounds like he's singing as the last man on earth, a sort of echo. roguevalley Jul 2012 #78

that is good. nt seabeyond Jul 2012 #102

Try this: Tennessee Gal Jul 2012 #5

Here it is. You know you can go to youtube and google it or look mucifer Jul 2012 #7

Thanks! I wish the dems would start turning the entire reagan message into: loudsue Jul 2012 #18

Damn! Cracklin Charlie Jul 2012 #22

We should make some bumper stickers & signs? loudsue Jul 2012 #28

Or two left wings. aquart Jul 2012 #32

That isn't the goal of the democrats, but it is certainly the goal of the conservatives... loudsue Jul 2012 #39

Well, it's MY goal Scootaloo Jul 2012 #86

Good post! And I totally agree. loudsue Jul 2012 #93

loudsue DemocracyInaction Jul 2012 #24

Thanks! Send it to the DNCC! Send it to team Obama! Use it locally! And here's another: loudsue Jul 2012 #30

Indeed. Why would we let people who hate government, mzmolly Jul 2012 #65

I've been saying this for years... if they hate government so much, why madmom Jul 2012 #94

Exactly. And why don't mzmolly Jul 2012 #99

Brilliant, lovemydog Jul 2012 #82

First, you should call the DNCand Obama campaigns and suggest this to them. It's brilliant! Liberal_Stalwart71 Jul 2012 #103

It may go viral on youtube. In one day it has over 500K views. Kahuna Jul 2012 #13

500,000 in one day? Oilwellian Jul 2012 #16

Several copies on YouTube - 1 million plus unc70 Jul 2012 #41

WOW! Repukes aren't gonna like that Kahuna Jul 2012 #47

Seems like the Hollywood Liberal connections are paying off. mucifer Jul 2012 #2

As a family member of hard working independent film professionals, I must tell you that patrice Jul 2012 #40

I didn't say it is a bad thing to have Hollywood support. mucifer Jul 2012 #43

Sorry!! I've been living in red-state Hell toooooo long. nt patrice Jul 2012 #46

Seems as though President Obama's base BlueToTheBone Jul 2012 #4

I think it's more than red meat for libruls, lol magical thyme Jul 2012 #37

They hollowed out the sound of his already hollow voice as well BeyondGeography Jul 2012 #6

A little echo chamber, the flapping Swiss flag, the lapping waters of Bermuda and the Caymans. CTyankee Jul 2012 #8

My take also. It reminds me of LBJ's 'Daisy Petal' ad of 1964 (which coalition_unwilling Jul 2012 #9

Absolutely...this one merits a long shelf-life nt BeyondGeography Jul 2012 #11

off key NJCher Jul 2012 #25

This ad is an utter curb stomp. Zalatix Jul 2012 #51

With the economy this way, I am personally not impressed by this line of argument. Romulox Jul 2012 #10

And exactly who created the economic crisis of today.... CherokeeDem Jul 2012 #53

You're not impressed? I'm shocked! Tarheel_Dem Jul 2012 #60

Heheh... SidDithers Jul 2012 #61

Sid, were you "impressed"? Tarheel_Dem Jul 2012 #63

A "centrist" is pleased with the status quo? Stop the presses! nt Romulox Jul 2012 #98

A "faux progressive" is outraged? Stop the presses again! Tarheel_Dem Jul 2012 #106

You don't need the quotation marks if you say "faux". It's similar to a double negative, the way Romulox Jul 2012 #112

And a "faux instructor" as well. You're just the smartest thing since sliced bread, you are! Tarheel_Dem Jul 2012 #115

I know. Smilies are *so* much easier. You keep at it, though. nt Romulox Jul 2012 #116

I bow to your superior, albeit a bit precious, knowledge. Tarheel_Dem Jul 2012 #120

There's *another* lesson for you, below! Thank me later! nt Romulox Jul 2012 #121

Unemployment rate: 8.2%. That's really bad. nt Romulox Jul 2012 #97

So is 115 degree heat in Delaware. Can't change that either. What's your point? Tarheel_Dem Jul 2012 #105

LOL. The only thing our politicians can do is bail out BANKERS, apparently. Unemployment? Romulox Jul 2012 #111

What's even more "bizarre" is your inability to acknowledge the obstruction at every turn. Tarheel_Dem Jul 2012 #114

Then it doesn't matter who is President. nt Romulox Jul 2012 #117

Truth be told, I don't think it ever really mattered to you. Which begs the question..... Tarheel_Dem Jul 2012 #118

That's not how "begs the question" is used, actually (I know, I know, it isn't cool to "know stuff") Romulox Jul 2012 #119

LOL! Good luck connecting with us "common folk". I'm learning so much from you! Tarheel_Dem Jul 2012 #122

It's people like Romney that created the economic mess Downtown Hound Jul 2012 #68

Your candor is noted. n/t gkhouston Jul 2012 #69

The latest add is the best one, rep or dem, that I've seen in years...shows rMoneys own words... uponit7771 Jul 2012 #12

Damn. That gave me chills. Wait Wut Jul 2012 #14

They have to go national on this ad buy. CANDO Jul 2012 #15

It is absolutely fugging malaise Jul 2012 #17

This ad is a home run except for one thing. Brickbat Jul 2012 #19

This commercial needs a lot of TV play. Excellent job! glinda Jul 2012 #20

It's got 600K hits on youtube. and only posted yesterday Liberal_in_LA Jul 2012 #52

tv play especially glinda Jul 2012 #81

they showed it on "Meet the Press" NJCher Jul 2012 #21

This ad is so good that even some of the lower income whites will vote for Obama. This ad southernyankeebelle Jul 2012 #23

That WAS a great ad! ananda Jul 2012 #26

A Phenomenal Ad! NoMittens Jul 2012 #27

playing Star Trek chess NNN0LHI Jul 2012 #29

This is the most effective ad run in this campaign... kentuck Jul 2012 #31

Romney HATES being pranked. magical thyme Jul 2012 #33

He doesn't look very happy! Change has come Jul 2012 #42

to get this ad (and one like it) to run nationally, LibGranny Jul 2012 #34

Yes, the psychological impact of the images is outstanding! nolabear Jul 2012 #35

Oh SNAP Iliyah Jul 2012 #36

It's a brilliant ad. Makes me get out the checkbook so it can run in every swing state. mnhtnbb Jul 2012 #38

Fascinating, especially the audio info in the links on TPM klook Jul 2012 #44

Did you all notice when Mitt was singing DearAbby Jul 2012 #45

They made him sound far, far way in those shots unc70 Jul 2012 #71

And you can hear the sound of waves on a beach too... Spazito Jul 2012 #72

Fascinating information at that link Ruby the Liberal Jul 2012 #48

star trek chess - chess in 3-D with three boards layered horizontally? lol Liberal_in_LA Jul 2012 #49

Astro Chess! lunatica Jul 2012 #54

During the singing, Romney's voice echoes in the EMPTY factories and offices! Brilliant! Firebrand Gary Jul 2012 #55

This ad is BRILLIANT!!! Poli sci professors will be talking about this ad 20 years from now. backscatter712 Jul 2012 #56

I would like to think- broiles Jul 2012 #57

Wow. drm604 Jul 2012 #58

Stellar ad, hits all the right notes HarveyDarkey Jul 2012 #62

This so good. riverbendviewgal Jul 2012 #64

The ad gave me chills. liberalmuse Jul 2012 #66

Already has more than 750,000 views Politicub Jul 2012 #67

I liked that they opened with a visual of Obama, gkhouston Jul 2012 #70

He's doing the slowed-down strut, too--like he owns this 'un. nt MADem Jul 2012 #91

Video has an eerie quality to it...... soccer1 Jul 2012 #73

I'm Carla in Sequim Carla in Sequim Jul 2012 #74

Looks like we'll be seeing replays of this one in the future, Honeycombe8 Jul 2012 #75

Great ad, one problem with it though: bayareamike Jul 2012 #79

It says Vanity Fair lovemydog Jul 2012 #83

I was referring to bayareamike Jul 2012 #104

Yes, that's how most magazines work. Son of Gob Jul 2012 #108

Gotcha, thanks for clearing that up. nt bayareamike Jul 2012 #123

From a technical perspective, it's great....but... IndyPragmatist123 Jul 2012 #85

You have to wait for saturation to see if Bain or the offshore $$ is going to make any difference. TalkingDog Jul 2012 #87

Funny you mention Leno IndyPragmatist123 Jul 2012 #89

Those polls that you Bohunk68 Jul 2012 #88

The message works. It's TRUE, that why. The ad is a home run. MADem Jul 2012 #90

I disagree... soccer1 Jul 2012 #96

Another article about the ad from TPM, quoting another director: highplainsdem Jul 2012 #92

Thanks for that update. Ruby the Liberal Jul 2012 #100

The ad needs to run in every State on every station till election day DainBramaged Jul 2012 #101

Ed Shultz will have a discussion on this n/t malaise Jul 2012 #107

From TPM -- the new ad was produced by the same ad team the Obama campaign has been using all along. highplainsdem Jul 2012 #110

Bet you that you never hear Mitt sing that song again. Skidmore Jul 2012 #113