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51. I approve of Susan Collins but am not voting for her.

Wed Sep 6, 2017, 05:21 AM

Sep 2017

I approve of B. Sanders but I am not going to voter for him.

Approval ratings and likeability or popularity ratings are often based more on name recognition plus they often don't mean that those surveyed approve of that person's policies.

Many people I know who were passionate about B. Sanders voted for Jill Stein in the general.

Many people I know who would never vote for Clinton because she "voted for the Iraq War Resolution are happy to support John Kerry or Joseph Biden - both of whom voted for the Iraq War Resolution.

Many people I know who would not vote for Clinton because as a non-elected citizen he backed a crime bill, are happy to support Sanders-who voted for the crime bill, and happy to support Biden-who wrote the crime bill.

We don't know what is in the rest of the book. Guess we have to be patient and wait until it is released.

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Hillary Clinton is right about Bernie Sanders [View all] William769 Sep 2017 OP

Third party voters and the third way are not the same thing. applegrove Sep 2017 #1

To me they are. nt William769 Sep 2017 #3

I'm trying to help. The third way was democratics attempt to put forth applegrove Sep 2017 #6

I understand that. William769 Sep 2017 #7

Hillary was an advocate of the third way back when it was a thing. applegrove Sep 2017 #8

Exactly. This is exactly why I opposed her in the primary. AllyCat Sep 2017 #17

Yup. zentrum Sep 2017 #20

Well stated. chwaliszewski Sep 2017 #29

I approve of Susan Collins but am not voting for her. delisen Sep 2017 #51

I'd bet that more than 80% of Americans approve of Taylor Swift but wouldn't vote for her for Pres. George II Sep 2017 #91

The point is zentrum Sep 2017 #97

Get real. If your first sentence was true he wouldn't have gotten beaten by Clinton by 4m votes. brush Sep 2017 #128

You have got a point. delisen Sep 2017 #114

Are the other 20% Katy Perry fans? Ken Burch Sep 2017 #135

She doesn't need "splaining to" by Bernie supporters. wasupaloopa Sep 2017 #78

If Sanders had 80% approval then why didn't it translate to votes? LiberalFighter Sep 2017 #117

Union members voted Reagan. Do you oppose unions? delisen Sep 2017 #53

My dad was a union organizer. zentrum Sep 2017 #95

Clinton was not particularly pro-union or pro-worker until she needed to be AllyCat Sep 2017 #102

I, as a worker and union member have found delisen Sep 2017 #106

That is in the past today ...third way voters mean the Steins and other third party voters...and Demsrule86 Sep 2017 #58

I Don't like third party candidates either. applegrove Sep 2017 #111

Right on! AllyCat Sep 2017 #14

You may get attacked. But I agree with you +1000. nt jrthin Sep 2017 #2

Wouldn't be the first time. William769 Sep 2017 #4

unique content definitely warrants it's own thread clu Sep 2017 #5

You Don't Have To Shut Up Me. Sep 2017 #9

Yes! sheshe2 Sep 2017 #10

Thanks & sorry for responding so late. William769 Sep 2017 #123

Love you. sheshe2 Sep 2017 #124

Love you too. William769 Sep 2017 #125

Excellent points, right on the mark. Thank you sir. (and great to see you!!) George II Sep 2017 #11

The problem with blaming Bernie for even running is that HRC is really blaming the voters... aikoaiko Sep 2017 #12

In all sincerity, I wish you good luck in getting that point across. Gore1FL Sep 2017 #23

Exactly! chwaliszewski Sep 2017 #30

There is no problem with their participating here BainsBane Sep 2017 #45

Unfortunately, we're back to refighting the primaries. aikoaiko Sep 2017 #62

+1,000. HughBeaumont Sep 2017 #73

We all own what we did. I supported Hillary and have no reason to look in the mirror. wasupaloopa Sep 2017 #81

And that is the thing KTM Sep 2017 #83

Sanders-primary-then-Clinton-general voters are not being blamed brush Sep 2017 #130

Boy, could I win money off of you. HughBeaumont Sep 2017 #131

Come on. You know very well that the great majority of DUers and Dems don't go after... brush Sep 2017 #132

Good thing she isn't blaming him for running. BainsBane Sep 2017 #42

Actually she is. When you read the text she says it was wrong for him to run as a Democrat. aikoaiko Sep 2017 #60

I agree with her JustAnotherGen Sep 2017 #65

I would expect no less from you. aikoaiko Sep 2017 #66

Thank you! JustAnotherGen Sep 2017 #108

Nice to be remembered, eh? George II Sep 2017 #136

It was. MrsCoffee Sep 2017 #71

I don't think so at all given his goal of improving the Democratic party. aikoaiko Sep 2017 #74

"given his goal of improving the Democratic party"? You are kidding right? Since when did we... Tarheel_Dem Sep 2017 #112

The sad part is, you'd think she'd be more clued in on the process. Gore1FL Sep 2017 #99

I did not see that in the text. Can you post delisen Sep 2017 #107

I'm just thinking off the top of y head, here all american girl Sep 2017 #133

I don't think you can lay all of that at Bernie's feet, but I know many HRC primary supporters do. aikoaiko Sep 2017 #134

Unqualified, rigged, crooked, pouting during the convention all american girl Sep 2017 #137

I completely agree. Demsrule86 Sep 2017 #139

I don't see "blaming." Clinton is stating her opinion delisen Sep 2017 #52

She can state her opinions all day long, but they have implications to the listeners aikoaiko Sep 2017 #59

Inference rather than implication. Observation rather than blame. LanternWaste Sep 2017 #67

Well, I have read some of the excerpts and she's presenting more than observation. aikoaiko Sep 2017 #72

Thanks for post, William. murielm99 Sep 2017 #13

K&R Jamaal510 Sep 2017 #15

Our voices. sheshe2 Sep 2017 #16

this circular firing squad elmac Sep 2017 #18

I think they are OK with that as long as there are scapegoats to blame. Gore1FL Sep 2017 #25

Yeah tell bobbers that. boston bean Sep 2017 #37

I don't know who bobbers is, but he or she is welcome to read my post. nt Gore1FL Sep 2017 #55

You know the bernie or busters. It's a group of people who refused boston bean Sep 2017 #56

I wonder how many felt that way because Hillary supporters told them to leave. Gore1FL Sep 2017 #100

Yours is a most creative allegation lacking any evidenced to support it. LanternWaste Sep 2017 #68

2016 is pretty good evidence. nt Gore1FL Sep 2017 #101

K & R SunSeeker Sep 2017 #19

Why even ferment this division? Worn out H vs B shit....again RiverStone Sep 2017 #21

I suppose we should sit idly by while groups like Our Revolution,Move On and others on the far left Demsrule86 Sep 2017 #63

Stop it already Catch2.2 Sep 2017 #22

You have no idea how we feel and to tell us off wasupaloopa Sep 2017 #32

The Kremlin says the DNC rigged the primary BainsBane Sep 2017 #50

LOL NurseJackie Sep 2017 #61

Some people just can't handle the truth. MrsCoffee Sep 2017 #70

Was Bernie right about Ms. Clinton? FairWinds Sep 2017 #24

+1 nt Gore1FL Sep 2017 #26

+1 chwaliszewski Sep 2017 #33

When is Bernie going to acknowledge his mistakes? BainsBane Sep 2017 #34

Exactly. LisaM Sep 2017 #39

What Hillary really should do is tell progressives to fuck off leftofcool Sep 2017 #47

Well actually, you folks on DU do that on a daily basis . . FairWinds Sep 2017 #122

Yes. "What have you done for me lately?" is my R B Garr Sep 2017 #48

She must blame herself to their satisfaction mcar Sep 2017 #82

Bernie didn't lose to Donald effing Trump. Hassin Bin Sober Sep 2017 #119

"You really blew it, dumbasses. Bravo!" lapucelle Sep 2017 #54

Lol. Hassin Bin Sober Sep 2017 #120

The OP reads like the CNN piece that it cited. lapucelle Sep 2017 #121

+100000 BainsBane Sep 2017 #27

Thank you for the bold commentary on third way voters melman Sep 2017 #28

Be sure to tell them BainsBane Sep 2017 #35

I agree with you now as I did in the primary wasupaloopa Sep 2017 #31

Even after the GE BainsBane Sep 2017 #36

+++Agree that Hillary is spot on about Bernie...he's no democrat. He ran on our ticket for exposure iluvtennis Sep 2017 #38

Good to know I've spent nearly 5 months a la izquierda Sep 2017 #40

it seems to me clu Sep 2017 #41

Agreed. Nt a la izquierda Sep 2017 #44

Clinton's attack on Bernie is backfiring in my circles Arazi Sep 2017 #64

Yet Bernie's attacks on the party backfired in the most spectacular way. MrsCoffee Sep 2017 #75

Are there any Dems who won't support Dems because of Bernie? Arazi Sep 2017 #90

Thank you! a la izquierda Sep 2017 #88

Not in mine. In fact those who adored Sen. Sanders are not please with the criticism of the Demsrule86 Sep 2017 #138

Hey.you! riderinthestorm Sep 2017 #94

Thanks. It's been a fun time. a la izquierda Sep 2017 #98

K&R. Great post. I hope you post more often lunamagica Sep 2017 #43

K&R Gothmog Sep 2017 #46

Agreed, William, and good to see you posting. R B Garr Sep 2017 #49

Third way voters are to blame for Katrina deaths and United... Demsrule86 Sep 2017 #57

I dont think you understand what Third Way is.... KTM Sep 2017 #77

I know what the third way is Demsrule86 Sep 2017 #92

Thats simply not true. KTM Sep 2017 #96

Good to see you here! greatauntoftriplets Sep 2017 #69

Good to see you here, William! mcar Sep 2017 #76

I have been pleasantly surprised at CNN's reporting on this mcar Sep 2017 #79

K&R Weekend Warrior Sep 2017 #80

The Thing About These Snippits PoorMonger Sep 2017 #84

Meanwhile Sanders is out still trying to torch Democrats. Historic NY Sep 2017 #85

I think Hillary made a mistake, by taking for granted, that... kentuck Sep 2017 #86

Isn't this re-fighting the primaries? al bupp Sep 2017 #87

It is great to see Bill posting again Gothmog Sep 2017 #89

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Post removed Post removed Sep 2017 #103

Al Gore is/was a great Democrat. Very progressive for his time, but R B Garr Sep 2017 #105

Awkwardly a higher percentage of Sanders supporters voted for Clinton mythology Sep 2017 #104

I suspect that the PUMAs will be swept away, along with other inconvenient facts, QC Sep 2017 #113

Exactly. DeltaLitProf Sep 2017 #127

I remember the PUMAS, I was a Hillary supporter then. Autumn Sep 2017 #141

She is totally right about Sanders. This quote gets to the essence of it: R B Garr Sep 2017 #109

I am feeling some despair about our changing political environment fallrey Sep 2017 #110

Great post. Yes we need strong Democratic Party supported by Democrats and the left leaning Demsrule86 Sep 2017 #140

So fucking what? There's nothing we can do about that. Iggo Sep 2017 #115

Wonderful to see you posting again, William. brer cat Sep 2017 #116

K&R JHan Sep 2017 #118

He may have played a part . . . DeltaLitProf Sep 2017 #126

Agreed TEB Sep 2017 #129