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Orrex

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Wed Sep 6, 2017, 06:09 AM Sep 2017

DACA is illegal [View all]

So says Mark Krikorian of the euphemistically-named "Center for Immigration Studies," which claims to be pro-immigrant yet somehow never quite says anything that isn't directly in line with the xenophobic Republicans' lilly-white doctrines of purity.

The Southern Poverty Law Center has argued that the group's founder John Tanton has ties to white supremacy groups and a eugenics foundation. The fact that a "eugenics foundation" even exists makes me kind of sick, to be honest.

Anyway, on NPR's Morning Edition, Krikorian repeatedly stated--unchallenged by the host--that Obama acted illegally when he put DACA into effect, so that Trump is doing the right (indeed, the better) thing in calling for a legislative solution. The unsubtle implication is that Trump is the better president when it comes to managing immigration.

Never mind the fact that Obama acted because McConnell expressly refused to do anything about immigration; Krikorian framed it as though Obama was some lawless rogue running roughshod over the American Dream of racial purity.

Krikorian grudgingly acknowledge that the children affected by DACA are a unique case, but he cautioned against any sort of amnesty because of its potential negative effects "downstream." He used that word--downstream--several times without actually explaining what those negative effects might be, and of course NPR's helpful commentator didn't call him on it or ask for clarification.

So the message is this: Trump is better than Obama on immigration, and Obama acted illegally to create DACA by fiat.


Everybody up to speed?

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DACA is illegal [View all] Orrex Sep 2017 OP
Something is only illegal if there is a law against it Not Ruth Sep 2017 #1
The claim is that Obama acted illegally in creating DACA Orrex Sep 2017 #4
That is not illegal Not Ruth Sep 2017 #5
Look, I'm not going to defend the claim made by these racist assholes Orrex Sep 2017 #7
An executive order that isn't unconstitutional is temporary. no_hypocrisy Sep 2017 #31
Not quite how that works FBaggins Sep 2017 #30
"downstream" means there will be more non-whites than whites. And that is never going to change. haveahart Sep 2017 #2
Speaking as a generic white guy... Orrex Sep 2017 #3
So was the underground railroad. dawg Sep 2017 #6
Of course, they'd have eliminated that as well, given half a chance Orrex Sep 2017 #8
They started a civil war to eliminate it. So, yeah. yardwork Sep 2017 #20
No way! It was the tariff! Orrex Sep 2017 #23
Right! It was all about freeeeeeedom. Well, freedom for some. yardwork Sep 2017 #26
NPR is complicit. They let liars lie unchallenged sharedvalues Sep 2017 #9
I understand that they can't always fact-check in real time... Orrex Sep 2017 #14
And the interviewer could prepare for an interview by becoming familiar with the subject rurallib Sep 2017 #18
Exactly Orrex Sep 2017 #22
I have been known to scream at NPR while driving. rurallib Sep 2017 #32
In 2012 I woke up to Romney lying on NPR and haven't listened since sharedvalues Sep 2017 #41
NPR is nauseating. sharedvalues Sep 2017 #40
NPRR barbtries Sep 2017 #19
+1 sharedvalues Sep 2017 #42
The courts say otherwise. GoCubsGo Sep 2017 #10
You're correct, and your point needs to be repeated as often as possible Orrex Sep 2017 #11
Was just listening to MJ and tom_kelly Sep 2017 #12
How come no one challenged it in court ?? kentuck Sep 2017 #13
GoCubsGo made this point upthread: Orrex Sep 2017 #15
Only people of color are subject to America's laws n2doc Sep 2017 #16
Plenty of white supremacists are pro-immigrant IronLionZion Sep 2017 #17
Contact NPR benfranklin1776 Sep 2017 #21
They won't give a shit about what I have to say Orrex Sep 2017 #24
Bothsideism will be the death of America. And NPR is complicit in that. sharedvalues Sep 2017 #44
+100 Duppers Sep 2017 #25
But their current argument is CrispyQ Sep 2017 #27
If the white Republican does it, it's legal Orrex Sep 2017 #29
So when Trump says he will revisit DACA in 6 months Freethinker65 Sep 2017 #28
"Revisit DACA in 6 months" is meaningless WestMichRad Sep 2017 #33
Exactly. I want those supporting Trump's reasoning to be ridiculed and exposed as frauds Freethinker65 Sep 2017 #36
Negative effects downstream? PatrickforO Sep 2017 #34
I heard that this morning awesomerwb1 Sep 2017 #35
On a tangential note... Orrex Sep 2017 #39
One problem with doing things that can be challenged in court like this Lee-Lee Sep 2017 #37
Wait till Congress fails to act and Trump reverses his decision in 6 months eleny Sep 2017 #38
There are three branches of government: the legislature Nevernose Sep 2017 #43
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