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DetlefK

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83. Bernie Sanders is as much a Democrat as Trump is a Republican.

Wed Sep 6, 2017, 10:36 AM

Sep 2017

They are both essentially Independents.
Sanders used the Democratic Party as his vehicle for a presidential run.
Trump used the Republican Party as his vehicle for a presidential run.

Both can't stop sniping that "their" party should radically change their platform.

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Dem lawmaker on Clinton criticizing Sanders in new book: 'Don't go there' [View all] Donkees Sep 2017 OP

When is Hillary going to learn her place? DURHAM D Sep 2017 #1

If only she'd waited "EIGHT OR TWELVE YEARS" (as someone suggested yesterday). NurseJackie Sep 2017 #5

I don't even respond to the idiots any more leftofcool Sep 2017 #8

Beating up on Hillary is done a lot here, but that is not new. Eliot Rosewater Sep 2017 #101

No time to wait BrooklynTech Sep 2017 #123

She could learn more self-reflection mythology Sep 2017 #18

Sanders did not rally his base to support Hillary Perseus Sep 2017 #21

Since when did the quality of one person's support decide a presidential election? BeyondGeography Sep 2017 #32

Are you reading something into a brief passage in a delisen Sep 2017 #82

Are you reading the thread? BeyondGeography Sep 2017 #87

Hillary Clinton has had the honor of being the First Lady of the United Sttates, the twice elected karynnj Sep 2017 #61

It's not sexism to hold her to the same standard of leadership shown by Kerry and Gore after they geek tragedy Sep 2017 #72

Yeah, McCain had a "lifetime of experience" but Obama only had "a speech he made in 2002." QC Sep 2017 #98

not to mention this gracious and dignified discourse geek tragedy Sep 2017 #99

And also not to mention the bit about staying in past California b/c that's when RFK got killed. QC Sep 2017 #100

Clinton even did the whole "pal around with terrorists" thing--Sarah Palin plagiarized her geek tragedy Sep 2017 #102

That was a rough primary. This past one was gentle in comparison. n/t QC Sep 2017 #104

Hmmmm, when has Bernie quit trashing the Dems...he lost also...just saying all american girl Sep 2017 #106

Jesus Christ...She's a politician. Politicians get criticized. white_wolf Sep 2017 #114

Agreed 100%. Pissing all over Bernie and his supporters is crazy Arazi Sep 2017 #2

Those are two entirely different ball-parks. Far, far away from each other. DetlefK Sep 2017 #6

I never got the impression that Bernie was nice to Hillary after arthritisR_US Sep 2017 #12

Could He Have Been More Reluctant & Grudging? Me. Sep 2017 #33

Unlikely. And that attitude spread throughout the entirety of the General Election. NurseJackie Sep 2017 #51

And That Wasn't Him Me. Sep 2017 #54

He did. He was a bitter man and it showed. arthritisR_US Sep 2017 #58

He's never stopped criticizing Democrats. nt comradebillyboy Sep 2017 #59

No, he never has and we're supposed to be lauding his praise, arthritisR_US Sep 2017 #97

I don't think he could have. arthritisR_US Sep 2017 #55

"graciousness personified" QC Sep 2017 #96

Lol, hilarious. Bernie Bernie Bros is exactly how its played Arazi Sep 2017 #22

What the heck.... LakeArenal Sep 2017 #37

Do you all remember Hillary talking about a luvtheGWN Sep 2017 #43

In my view from the north, LakeArenal Sep 2017 #46

Bernie Sanders is as much a Democrat as Trump is a Republican. DetlefK Sep 2017 #83

I don't see your point. LakeArenal Sep 2017 #85

Nobody gets special treatment. NurseJackie Sep 2017 #10

You want their votes or not? I do. We desperately need them Arazi Sep 2017 #24

Nope! Non-and-Stein voters can go fuck themselves. No rewards... NurseJackie Sep 2017 #31

But it's okay for them to piss on HRC and the DNC, right? Adrahil Sep 2017 #11

Yep, it's funny how that works... arthritisR_US Sep 2017 #15

Is Hillary running again? Did she run a flawless campaign? No errors from the DNC? Arazi Sep 2017 #27

Yep, I want them. Do they want mine? Adrahil Sep 2017 #41

We ALL want to get rid of the orange scum in the WH Arazi Sep 2017 #47

Yes! Focus! Midterms! Heartstrings Sep 2017 #74

Opinion about election events are not "pissing" delisen Sep 2017 #14

Good. Then Bernies opinion on the state of the Dem party is equally valid Arazi Sep 2017 #30

It Would Be If He Was A Dem Me. Sep 2017 #35

He's part of the Dem leadership team. Fuck this "he's not one of us" bullshit Arazi Sep 2017 #39

What's The Saying? Me. Sep 2017 #40

I'd be happy to stop "castigating" them if they would return the favor. Adrahil Sep 2017 #44

It's called politics. If you're expecting a pleasure cruise then get off the boat now Arazi Sep 2017 #48

If Sanders Dem-leaning Indies are not inspired to delisen Sep 2017 #80

Sure Nader was free to voice his opinion of delisen Sep 2017 #53

The party was attacked greeny2323 Sep 2017 #3

Huffman "schooling" Clinton on "politics is rough" delisen Sep 2017 #4

Right. Someone needs to evolve. BeyondGeography Sep 2017 #42

as an actual, current Democratic elected official he has every right to object to people geek tragedy Sep 2017 #73

Sit down and shut up little lady leftofcool Sep 2017 #7

Oh for goodness sake Kentonio Sep 2017 #86

We hear, Hillary should stfu, Hillary supporters should stfu, well that ain't going to happen. wasupaloopa Sep 2017 #9

We hear, Sanders should stfu, Sanders supporters should stfu, well that ain't going to happen. LakeArenal Sep 2017 #38

Nope it cant Tavarious Jackson Sep 2017 #71

A temporary democrat! 👀 sprinkleeninow Sep 2017 #108

Oh you think you guys have a lot of bitterness? Kentonio Sep 2017 #88

Get in line and shut up Clinton. Weekend Warrior Sep 2017 #13

I don't want this scab to be opened but I have some very definite opinions about this jimlup Sep 2017 #16

+2 Duppers Sep 2017 #19

.... AikenYankee Sep 2017 #25

Go piss up a rope, Rep. Hoffman. Hillary's correct about Bernie and his followers. (nt) Paladin Sep 2017 #17

We love you too. Kentonio Sep 2017 #89

If Rep. Huffman is correct--and politics is rough--then certain people... Expecting Rain Sep 2017 #20

.... AikenYankee Sep 2017 #28

Huffman is a hoot. Can't take the heat of delisen Sep 2017 #60

"Or are we embracing double-standards now?" comradebillyboy Sep 2017 #65

Good for Huffman.. disillusioned73 Sep 2017 #23

+1 AikenYankee Sep 2017 #26

This is begging the question, but . . . . no_hypocrisy Sep 2017 #29

!! leftstreet Sep 2017 #78

Indeed. And refighting the primary is a bad idea. PatrickforO Sep 2017 #34

Did he read the WHOLE book or just the snippets that have been selectively doled out... George II Sep 2017 #36

That's a good point, one that both sides should take into account BeyondGeography Sep 2017 #56

It's not just the media that is doling it out BannonsLiver Sep 2017 #128

Too late, you patronizing jackass. GoCubsGo Sep 2017 #45

yea.. shut up woman! nini Sep 2017 #49

Go where the F**k you want to Hillary. You earned the right. haveahart Sep 2017 #50

Bernie ran an aspirational campaign, I'll give him that. SaschaHM Sep 2017 #52

Please, Hillary, stop .... Shoonra Sep 2017 #57

+1 nt riderinthestorm Sep 2017 #62

No. MrsCoffee Sep 2017 #63

Fuck this shit nini Sep 2017 #75

She can say whatever she wants Kentonio Sep 2017 #91

Sore Loser?? nini Sep 2017 #95

Who said anything about evil? Kentonio Sep 2017 #117

Hurting the party? nini Sep 2017 #118

The party is many different groups Kentonio Sep 2017 #119

That's some serous projection BainsBane Sep 2017 #76

Fundraising-Clinton raised lots for Dems. Hope delisen Sep 2017 #84

No BainsBane Sep 2017 #90

++1000 zentrum Sep 2017 #94

Wrong. She should have "gone there" a long time ago. R B Garr Sep 2017 #64

Exactly. BainsBane Sep 2017 #67

"Class and Restraint?" BainsBane Sep 2017 #66

It's as if ... zentrum Sep 2017 #68

Yup Kentonio Sep 2017 #92

Yeah, this isn't a fight Clinton is going to win in the 2017 Democratic party. nt geek tragedy Sep 2017 #69

Midterms, Midterms, Midterms! Heartstrings Sep 2017 #70

Randy Bryce, Randy Bryce, Randy Bryce LakeArenal Sep 2017 #79

Recently got an email/letter sprinkleeninow Sep 2017 #111

Your point? LakeArenal Sep 2017 #121

I've been getting mail from Bryce and attempting to sort out who's who. sprinkleeninow Sep 2017 #124

So guilt by association? LakeArenal Sep 2017 #130

Oy veh, Gefilte Fish. sprinkleeninow Sep 2017 #131

Well, and Egads, stuffed fish to you. LakeArenal Sep 2017 #132

Just so ya know-- sprinkleeninow Sep 2017 #133

Would love to see a screenshot of that endorsement Heartstrings Sep 2017 #122

I may have deleted it. sprinkleeninow Sep 2017 #125

Bernie spent as much time as he could bashing Hillary WhiteTara Sep 2017 #77

Oh please, he never even took his gloves off. Kentonio Sep 2017 #93

The book is it print, to be released next week BainsBane Sep 2017 #81

Just thinking same. What if she threw 'caution' to the wind sprinkleeninow Sep 2017 #109

Yes, and she said Obama held her back from criticizing Sanders BainsBane Sep 2017 #113

Yeah, so I heard. sprinkleeninow Sep 2017 #115

This message was self-deleted by its author BainsBane Sep 2017 #120

now is not the time for democrats to make enemies with themselves and likeminded folks beachjustice Sep 2017 #103

Why oh why do men feel the need to tell a woman what to do all american girl Sep 2017 #105

and yet another, "sit down and shut up, woman" from a male. yawnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn niyad Sep 2017 #107

"restraint"? Blue_Tires Sep 2017 #110

She will not be silenced. liquid diamond Sep 2017 #112

wise words. Joe941 Sep 2017 #116

Man scolding is so annoying nini Sep 2017 #126

Her book isn't the problem p, his misogyny is. arthritisR_US Sep 2017 #127

No problem when books, commentators, and speeches expressed their views on Hillary's "missteps", still_one Sep 2017 #129