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Hekate

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5. I think she's right. We had a woman who talked policy and won by +3,000,000, but lost the EC...

Wed Sep 6, 2017, 01:18 PM

Sep 2017

In opposite corners, we had two men who yelled and waved their arms and growled. I find that juxtaposition odd. Be that as it may, one of those men was sincere, and he got emotions running high. The other man was a congenital liar who stoked every negative emotion in the human repertoire.

And look who "won."

She's right, and I can hardly wait to read her book to get the context she puts it in.

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Clinton Reveals The Decision She 'Regrets The Most' In New Memoir [View all] DonViejo Sep 2017 OP

People wanted to be dazzled. It's beyond my comprehension as to why... bettyellen Sep 2017 #1

Not all people. They had to believe this bigoted ignorant white man was superior JI7 Sep 2017 #2

Trump took it to the extreme, for sure NewJeffCT Sep 2017 #6

Media magnet yes- charismatic is a stretch for me, but I guess if buffoons can be charismatic bettyellen Sep 2017 #21

W's charisma was manufactured by the media as well NewJeffCT Sep 2017 #22

True, the style over substance thing is true. And people wanted to take their anger out on ..... bettyellen Sep 2017 #24

Yeah, remember that "clearing brush on the ranch" scthick? brush Sep 2017 #25

You can go back to Kennedy Cuthbert Allgood Sep 2017 #31

Well said...so we need a smart, honest charmer. Kennedy, Franken, Booker for VP Alice11111 Sep 2017 #39

She would never have been able to get away with that JI7 Sep 2017 #3

Hysterical wimminz, amirite? -- Also, HRC could never pull it off. She is thoughtful, above all else Hekate Sep 2017 #7

if everything about the elections are really revealed in the end NewJeffCT Sep 2017 #8

I reached the same conclusion long ago. Whatever he accuses others of doing, is what HE is doing... Hekate Sep 2017 #28

I'd bet nothing. The man must have had his team chewing their nails and Hortensis Sep 2017 #36

!!! Alice11111 Sep 2017 #40

I'm glad she did not stoop to that level and retained her dignity. Tanuki Sep 2017 #4

I think she's right. We had a woman who talked policy and won by +3,000,000, but lost the EC... Hekate Sep 2017 #5

I'm looking forward to reading it, too. And I'm really glad it doesn't sound as if's a mea culpa. LisaM Sep 2017 #10

So Sanders Trump? Cuthbert Allgood Sep 2017 #32

Except that is not what I said, is it? Bellowing and arm-waving are reserved for male candidates... Hekate Sep 2017 #42

Hillary Clinton lost because Alpeduez21 Sep 2017 #9

She would have won--by a lot--had it not been for an out-of-control, GOP-led FBI. (eom) StevieM Sep 2017 #46

She didn't need to emulate Trump. procon Sep 2017 #11

!!!...but her camp could have made major efforts in Mich, Wiss, and purple parts of Penn. They Alice11111 Sep 2017 #43

Well said, procon Hekate Sep 2017 #44

This is like answering "I'm a perfectionist" to the question "what's your biggest weakness?" geek tragedy Sep 2017 #12

No, she's saying she should have been a loose cannon like everyone else. R B Garr Sep 2017 #13

Because that worked wonders for Little Marco. geek tragedy Sep 2017 #14

lol, you made her point for her with this wraparound statement. R B Garr Sep 2017 #18

it wasn't the food fight, it was the fact that the public wanted change. geek tragedy Sep 2017 #20

Oh please. The DNC convention was some ugly food fight. As was the NV caucus. Kids wanted blood and bettyellen Sep 2017 #23

nah djsunyc Sep 2017 #15

the political cycle made this a tough climb for Clinton. geek tragedy Sep 2017 #16

Pls stop with all of that. The repugs cheat, and that includes political hack Comey. brush Sep 2017 #26

Yup Egnever Sep 2017 #34

Great insight RandomAccess Sep 2017 #51

Poor judgement again? zipplewrath Sep 2017 #17

Good question, but I think it would have failed leftstreet Sep 2017 #27

could have handled it zipplewrath Sep 2017 #30

Post removed Post removed Sep 2017 #19

This is more of Hillary not taking responsibility BainsBane Sep 2017 #29

That's the problem with running 70 year old candidates Egnever Sep 2017 #33

I don't think it was a change Major Nikon Sep 2017 #35

Absolutely but the ground game has changed considerably Egnever Sep 2017 #37

that is complete bullshit dsc Sep 2017 #38

She was the first and only dem(or any) pres candidate the so fully and openly JI7 Sep 2017 #41

Her policies for employees at State were also liberal, as she was an early supporter of same sex... Hekate Sep 2017 #45

I am sure that the media will claim she was too hard on Comey and equally sure that when I read it StevieM Sep 2017 #47

I am looking forward to reading this book Gothmog Sep 2017 #48

I hope HRC achieves the catharsis she desperately needs. Get this monkey off WinkyDink Sep 2017 #49

It's strange that she's never read a book by George Lakoff Ron Green Sep 2017 #50

I am glad she remained classy and used intelligence! n/t USALiberal Sep 2017 #52