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zipplewrath

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17. Poor judgement again?

Wed Sep 6, 2017, 02:02 PM

Sep 2017

Isn't she really saying she showed poor judgement again?

Her Iraqi vote. Her decision to mix private emails with public business on a personally controlled server. Declaring the TPP to be the "gold standard" before it was even done. And we can talk about "Hillary Care" and what went wrong there.

The political landscape was changing and she didn't notice. Whose fault is that?

Ya know, the sad part is, and I'll wonder about this for a long time....

During the 08 primaries, she asserted that Obama didn't understand how hostile the GOP would be. She was right. He didn't and they achieved new levels of hostility, in part because he refused for so long to understand. I think she was dead right about this and I wonder how different things would have been if we'd given her first crack. She could have even offered him a cabinet post in the second term to build up his run in 2016.

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Clinton Reveals The Decision She 'Regrets The Most' In New Memoir [View all] DonViejo Sep 2017 OP

People wanted to be dazzled. It's beyond my comprehension as to why... bettyellen Sep 2017 #1

Not all people. They had to believe this bigoted ignorant white man was superior JI7 Sep 2017 #2

Trump took it to the extreme, for sure NewJeffCT Sep 2017 #6

Media magnet yes- charismatic is a stretch for me, but I guess if buffoons can be charismatic bettyellen Sep 2017 #21

W's charisma was manufactured by the media as well NewJeffCT Sep 2017 #22

True, the style over substance thing is true. And people wanted to take their anger out on ..... bettyellen Sep 2017 #24

Yeah, remember that "clearing brush on the ranch" scthick? brush Sep 2017 #25

You can go back to Kennedy Cuthbert Allgood Sep 2017 #31

Well said...so we need a smart, honest charmer. Kennedy, Franken, Booker for VP Alice11111 Sep 2017 #39

She would never have been able to get away with that JI7 Sep 2017 #3

Hysterical wimminz, amirite? -- Also, HRC could never pull it off. She is thoughtful, above all else Hekate Sep 2017 #7

if everything about the elections are really revealed in the end NewJeffCT Sep 2017 #8

I reached the same conclusion long ago. Whatever he accuses others of doing, is what HE is doing... Hekate Sep 2017 #28

I'd bet nothing. The man must have had his team chewing their nails and Hortensis Sep 2017 #36

!!! Alice11111 Sep 2017 #40

I'm glad she did not stoop to that level and retained her dignity. Tanuki Sep 2017 #4

I think she's right. We had a woman who talked policy and won by +3,000,000, but lost the EC... Hekate Sep 2017 #5

I'm looking forward to reading it, too. And I'm really glad it doesn't sound as if's a mea culpa. LisaM Sep 2017 #10

So Sanders Trump? Cuthbert Allgood Sep 2017 #32

Except that is not what I said, is it? Bellowing and arm-waving are reserved for male candidates... Hekate Sep 2017 #42

Hillary Clinton lost because Alpeduez21 Sep 2017 #9

She would have won--by a lot--had it not been for an out-of-control, GOP-led FBI. (eom) StevieM Sep 2017 #46

She didn't need to emulate Trump. procon Sep 2017 #11

!!!...but her camp could have made major efforts in Mich, Wiss, and purple parts of Penn. They Alice11111 Sep 2017 #43

Well said, procon Hekate Sep 2017 #44

This is like answering "I'm a perfectionist" to the question "what's your biggest weakness?" geek tragedy Sep 2017 #12

No, she's saying she should have been a loose cannon like everyone else. R B Garr Sep 2017 #13

Because that worked wonders for Little Marco. geek tragedy Sep 2017 #14

lol, you made her point for her with this wraparound statement. R B Garr Sep 2017 #18

it wasn't the food fight, it was the fact that the public wanted change. geek tragedy Sep 2017 #20

Oh please. The DNC convention was some ugly food fight. As was the NV caucus. Kids wanted blood and bettyellen Sep 2017 #23

nah djsunyc Sep 2017 #15

the political cycle made this a tough climb for Clinton. geek tragedy Sep 2017 #16

Pls stop with all of that. The repugs cheat, and that includes political hack Comey. brush Sep 2017 #26

Yup Egnever Sep 2017 #34

Great insight RandomAccess Sep 2017 #51

Poor judgement again? zipplewrath Sep 2017 #17

Good question, but I think it would have failed leftstreet Sep 2017 #27

could have handled it zipplewrath Sep 2017 #30

Post removed Post removed Sep 2017 #19

This is more of Hillary not taking responsibility BainsBane Sep 2017 #29

That's the problem with running 70 year old candidates Egnever Sep 2017 #33

I don't think it was a change Major Nikon Sep 2017 #35

Absolutely but the ground game has changed considerably Egnever Sep 2017 #37

that is complete bullshit dsc Sep 2017 #38

She was the first and only dem(or any) pres candidate the so fully and openly JI7 Sep 2017 #41

Her policies for employees at State were also liberal, as she was an early supporter of same sex... Hekate Sep 2017 #45

I am sure that the media will claim she was too hard on Comey and equally sure that when I read it StevieM Sep 2017 #47

I am looking forward to reading this book Gothmog Sep 2017 #48

I hope HRC achieves the catharsis she desperately needs. Get this monkey off WinkyDink Sep 2017 #49

It's strange that she's never read a book by George Lakoff Ron Green Sep 2017 #50

I am glad she remained classy and used intelligence! n/t USALiberal Sep 2017 #52