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Showing Original Post only (View all)Yes, Antifa Is Very Dangerous -- But Not To Fascists - by Gene Lyons [View all]
Full article posted with the permission of the author - DonSeptember 5, 2017 10:38 pm
Call me unromantic, but I disliked a lot about the fabled Sixties the first time around. Some of the music was good, but otherwise 1968 was among the worst years in American life. The center nearly failed to hold.
As if the Vietnam War were not bad enough, the assassinations of Martin Luther King and Robert F. Kennedy made it feel as if Americas democratic institutions might not survive. Eager for revolution, hothouse warriors in the SDS and Weather Underground did everything possible to promote anarchyfrom rioting to setting off bombs. During the 1968 Democratic National Convention, pitched battles between street fighters and Chicago police brought chaos and a massive voter backlash.
The most immediate result, brilliantly chronicled in historian Rick Perlsteins book Nixonland, was the criminal presidency of Richard M. Nixon.
So I found it heartening to see Perlstein take to Facebook to scold the latter-day anarchists of Antifa. There was nothing subtle or scholarly about it.
Stop destroying the left, you infantile [bleeps], Perlstein wrote.
Can I get an amen?
In a subsequent post, the historian quoted an eyewitness account of Antifa goons assaulting KKK-style marchers at a white-power demonstration in Berkeley, CA, of all places.
Yesterday, at the anti-Alt-Right rally in Berkeley, Leighton Woodhouse wrote, I watched groups of masked Antifa members in Black Bloc formation swarm individuals who were apparently antagonizing them, and pummel them with their fists, feet, and flagpoles. When the victims tried to escape, they were run down, and in at least one case, cut off by the Antifa mob and beaten down some more.
A similarly vivid account of Antifa bullying by photojournalist Mike Kessler appeared in The New Republic. The irony was that until the masked, black-clad social justice warriors appeared, the Berkeley crowd had decisively outnumbered, ridiculed and shamed alt-right marchers as the pathetic goobers that they are.
Much as thousands of peaceful citizens on Boston Common had so outnumbered white supremacists a week earlier that they took off their little bedsheets and went home without even trying to harangue the crowd.
Thats all that ever needs to happen.
But I dont even need to turn on Fox News to know that Sean Hannity and the rest of the merry band of Trump apologists on right-wing media are playing up Antifa as the moral equivalent of Bolshevik revolutionaries.
Well-meaning journalists such as the Washington Posts Margaret Sullivan and Atlantic Monthlys Peter Beinart are certainly correct to argue that theres no real comparison between left- and right-wing political violence in the United States. The alt-left Trump described scarcely exists, and had almost no role in the Charlottesville tragedy.
Beinart cites Anti-Defamation League statistics showing that 74 percent of politically-motivated murders in the US since 2007 were committed by right wing extremists; versus 2 percent by leftists.
The news medias tendency to soft-pedal the far-right motives of killers from Timothy McVeigh to Dylan Roof has long been an instance of willful blindness.
Journalists on the left correctly fear that wont be the case with Antifa.
Also on Facebook, Lindsay Beyerstein explains that shes covered many protests halfway sabotaged by Antifa antics: I always thought of them as self-indulgent parasites because theyd show up at demonstrations organized by other people and capture the news cycle with petty property destruction.
But when masked intruders quit breaking windows and start carrying weapons, things can change fast. Paramilitaries facing off in the streets is Gods gift to fascism, Beyerstein adds. Not everyone likes racism and militarism, but everyone likes safety and order. If weve already got safety and order, fascists have nothing to offer casual supporters.
But she predicts that if real violence comes the backlash is going to come down as hard against the entire left as it did against the alt right after Charlottesville.
Thats certainly what happened during the Sixties.
My late father taught me an oft-repeated expression I always took as the essence of Americanism. Youre no better than anybody else, hed growl and NOBODYS BETTER THAN YOU. There was more than a little Irish nationalism in what he said, but he definitely meant it. So do I.
Most Americans do too. Even under Donald Trump, the great majority remains deeply attached to the fundamental premises of democratic citizenship. They want to believe that were all in it togetherAmerica, that isand they react against anybody threatening that belief.
So that when Alabama segregationists attacked peaceful civil rights demonstrators with clubs, tear gas and dogs, the majority sympathized with the victimsand brought about the end of Jim Crow. But after rioting tore Chicago apart in 1968, they went the other way. Hard.
Nobody needs the help of Antifa militants and the idiot professors making excuses for them to reject the KKK.
But let them start real trouble, and well all end up wishing wed never heard of them.
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Yes, Antifa Is Very Dangerous -- But Not To Fascists - by Gene Lyons [View all]
DonViejo
Sep 2017
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If you use violence in some "leftist" cause, you might as well as join the KKK...
Thomas Hurt
Sep 2017
#1
You are comparing Barack Obama to Richard Nixon on a forum designed to support Democrats?
Expecting Rain
Sep 2017
#9
You forced an out-of-context incident into a thread where it was irrelevant...
Expecting Rain
Sep 2017
#16
Exactly. In just the same way Bernie Sanders could have punked O'Reilly...
Expecting Rain
Sep 2017
#22
So now we add people with WASPy names to the list of the privileged along with...
Expecting Rain
Sep 2017
#25
The 62 million who thought it would be the bees knees to put one in charge of our country.
HughBeaumont
Sep 2017
#33
Thanks for all the replies, are there any organizations other than Antifa that are anti fascist?
Not Ruth
Sep 2017
#43
Yooooouuuuu rreally don't want me to toss paint on those sacred cows . . .
HughBeaumont
Sep 2017
#44
I'd hope "dedicated and armed communists" would be stopped in infancy as well, being little better
Marengo
Sep 2017
#47
The fascists, Donald Trump, Jamie Dimon and all the other oligarchs......
socialist_n_TN
Sep 2017
#50
Spare me the propaganda. In my youth I was involved with Bob Avakian's clown circus. As an adult...
Marengo
Sep 2017
#53
The Maoists of course disagree, considering themselves the only true ideological descendants...
Marengo
Sep 2017
#59
Another pseudo intellectual pansy who fancies himself the keeper of "the right way" to do things
Downtown Hound
Sep 2017
#54