You Need To Stop

[Ken Burch]

190. If that's the case, there's no reason to MENTION the Stein voters then.

It's a waste of time starting threads here trashing them. Stein voters don't read threads on DU. And no slam on them here is going to make any significant number of them say "oo

I agree with getting new voters(almost all of whom are going to be on the left politically).

But we can't get new voters by focusing on bashing Sanders voters and obsessing about 2016-I didn't say Stein voters, I said Sanders voters-and by reducing our appeal to "you HAVE to vote for us". You get new voters by saying "here's what we have to offer and here's why we respect and value you and want you in our tent".

And I said Democrats didn't treat Nixon and Reagan Dem voters like you treat people who didn't support us because they wanted us to be more progressive. It doesn't matter if the Internet existed then or not(although it did exist in the era when both Bushes were in the White House or had recently been there).

In the Nineties, a lot of Nader voters were former Dems who'd seen the party abandon what seemed to them nearly everything recognizably different from conservatism. THOSE were the people I talked about in the phrase "won back". Dennis Kucinich actually brought most of them back to the party in 2004b by running a primary campaign that addressed what they cared about Many more than not stayed with us in the fall(they wouldn't have switched if no one in the 2004 primary had run to the left of Gore.

ALL of us on this board agree that it sucks that Trump is president. Why not focus on bringing people together for the future on a positive program in order to change that? What matters is 2018 and 2020, not 2016. The only way to do better in those years is to listen and to change.