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In reply to the discussion: Some want kowtowing to a minority of people who refused to vote for clinton. [View all]Jim Lane
(11,175 posts)66. That's far too simplistic.
Basically, Trump's voters were Republicans and Clinton's were Democrats (in both cases, including self-identified independents with a strong party lean). I haven't seen any hard data, but I'm sure the vast majority of people voted for the same party they had voted for in 2012. That would include a lot of anti-immigration voters supporting Trump, because they've been voting Republican for years now. Nevertheless, you can't just say "anti-immigration" and explain more than 60 million individual choices.
Most notably, there were Obama-Trump voters. They're worth paying attention to. Just today, Politico had a valuable article: "Poll: Obama-Trump voters drifting away from the president". Key excerpts:
Sixteen percent of these Obama-Trump voters said they regretted their choice in last year's election a small but significant number that again outpaces the 6 percent of all Trump voters who regret voting for him.
. . . .
Very few Romney-Clinton voters want do-overs on their 2016 votes. Only 3 percent said they regretted their vote far less than the 16 percent of Obama-Trump voters who said the same.
. . . .
Very few Romney-Clinton voters want do-overs on their 2016 votes. Only 3 percent said they regretted their vote far less than the 16 percent of Obama-Trump voters who said the same.
I certainly don't think we should appeal to Trump voters by trying to outdo him in racism (or misogyny or homophobia/transphobia), but we don't need to win over all of them. A big chunk are not hard-core bigots.
As for the role of the media, I was supporting Bernie Sanders in the primary. You don't have to tell me about media bias. Bernie ran a substantive, issue-oriented campaign, but the corporate media largely acted as if he didn't exist.
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Some want kowtowing to a minority of people who refused to vote for clinton. [View all]
boston bean
Sep 2017
OP
I honestly think it feels that way because the media focused so much on those WWC voters
bettyellen
Sep 2017
#56
Basically those were anti-immigration voters, so yeah they undercut the base...
bettyellen
Sep 2017
#61
Read DU just in the last couple days, and you'll see that your admonition comes too late.
Jim Lane
Sep 2017
#88
xenophobes hate Dem values - they hate insurance that covers brown people and abortions....
bettyellen
Sep 2017
#71
I'm not chalking it up to one factor- but saying the xenophobes are not worth chasing. They hate
bettyellen
Sep 2017
#90
That is already happening with Sanders supported groups like 'Our Revolution' who kicked out a
Demsrule86
Sep 2017
#37
The only purity test I want is one on Citizens United. Everything else is ok with me.
haveahart
Sep 2017
#55
One might go so far as to say the Democratic Party Platform is a purity test
LanternWaste
Sep 2017
#60
So, if people instead tell you are right to point this out once a day (it seems)
Chakaconcarne
Sep 2017
#24
Thank you! Thank you very much! This group of disloyal non-voters is NOT "the base"...
NurseJackie
Sep 2017
#28
We had economic meltdown in 08 and neither Democratic candidate attacked the party.
Demsrule86
Sep 2017
#39
Have you notice gerrymandering, repug vote suppression, vote hacking or Comey's letter?
brush
Sep 2017
#36
Millions upon millions voted for Sanders in the primary and Clinton in the general.
geek tragedy
Sep 2017
#52
Her book has great timing. We can learn from it in time for the next elections in 2018 & 2020.
Madam45for2923
Sep 2017
#70