Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News Editorials & Other Articles General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search
 

mythology

(9,527 posts)
31. You do realize that 20-25% is a higher number than even your estimate of PA and MI right?
Wed Sep 6, 2017, 10:56 PM
Sep 2017

It's a little silly to try to be snarky when you're inadvertently proving their point for them.

I don't know how anybody can read this forum with any objectivity and think that the problem is there aren't enough threads bashing Sanders or his supporters. There are a number of posters that all but directly call anybody criticizing Clinton sexist. But the whining persists.

But if Obama could win against a much more respectable opponent in spite of a significantly higher number of Clinton supporters not voting for him, that doesn't exactly sing the praises of Clinton.

Clinton didn't lose because of Sanders no matter what she claims in her book. The evidence is clear. She was significantly ahead in the polls up until the second Comey announcement in late October. The only reason there was a Comey announcement at all was because she decided to set up a separate email server. That was entirely within her control.

Recommendations

0 members have recommended this reply (displayed in chronological order):

"Passionate" sounds better than "annoyingly strident". guillaumeb Sep 2017 #1
Oh, there is mcar Sep 2017 #2
And if anyone points out the double-standard, the reply is always a dismissive one... NurseJackie Sep 2017 #57
Just today - a thread on a Politico article mcar Sep 2017 #61
The people who attack and smear Kamala Harris are fucking assholes! It's unclear to me... NurseJackie Sep 2017 #64
But even the slightest critique (well-sourced) of someone mcar Sep 2017 #66
"Our Revolution" now supports Republicans, right? Shouldn't that mean... NurseJackie Sep 2017 #68
It is a fair question mcar Sep 2017 #69
Very well said, thank you very much. George II Sep 2017 #3
Thank you JustAnotherGen Sep 2017 #4
Well said. sheshe2 Sep 2017 #5
Counts: Ms. Toad Sep 2017 #6
Thank you for your input. The Polack MSgt Sep 2017 #12
Since the front page of gd prior to the book release Ms. Toad Sep 2017 #39
K&R UTUSN Sep 2017 #7
K&R. Thank you! lunamagica Sep 2017 #8
It was the Russians interference in the primaries and general. AngryAmish Sep 2017 #9
K and R. lapucelle Sep 2017 #10
It all comes down to one thing BainsBane Sep 2017 #11
Two things. zentrum Sep 2017 #13
Thank you! Madam Mossfern Sep 2017 #16
Your idea zentrum Sep 2017 #19
I'm not claiming the high ground The Polack MSgt Sep 2017 #28
I mostly skip these threads, but glad I looked at this one mountain grammy Sep 2017 #17
Forward! zentrum Sep 2017 #22
Best post I've seen yet in all the recent Circular Firing Squad threads. klook Sep 2017 #38
Thank you for this! nt. druidity33 Sep 2017 #46
There were many, many, many more Bernie supporters than HRC supporters. That hasn't changed. Lil Missy Sep 2017 #48
Your understanding of the rules is simply wrong vis-a-vis Bernie Sanders. Jim Lane Sep 2017 #58
Stating facts, even if unpleasant, is not "bashing". Lil Missy Sep 2017 #63
I can assure you, from personal experience.... Jim Lane Sep 2017 #71
Which has absolutely nothing to my comment that "Stating facts is not the same as bashing". Lil Missy Sep 2017 #80
Oh, I agree with that comment of yours -- as a generalization. Jim Lane Sep 2017 #82
There weren't or Hillary Clinton would not have run in the general...and it wasn't close either. Demsrule86 Sep 2017 #59
Thank you, thank you, thank you. Maven Sep 2017 #14
Nah Lordquinton Sep 2017 #15
16% in PA. 12% in MI The Polack MSgt Sep 2017 #20
You do realize that 20-25% is a higher number than even your estimate of PA and MI right? mythology Sep 2017 #31
30 years of propaganda The Polack MSgt Sep 2017 #33
Both less that 20-25% Lordquinton Sep 2017 #43
For real tho - I have not mentioned the primary in this OP or any of my replies. The Polack MSgt Sep 2017 #44
Very well stated. UtahLib Sep 2017 #18
Well said, TPMS. brer cat Sep 2017 #21
I'm a life long Democrat.. i haven't missed an election since I turned 18 back in 1978. CentralMass Sep 2017 #23
Well said. zentrum Sep 2017 #42
Thank and I agree with you. CentralMass Sep 2017 #49
Pitch perfect! NurseJackie Sep 2017 #24
I agree. murielm99 Sep 2017 #25
questions before I trash this thread like every other tymorial Sep 2017 #26
I don't alert or trash or ignore. The Polack MSgt Sep 2017 #29
excellent post! m-lekktor Sep 2017 #40
Excellent question... I notice the OP did not answer you. SalviaBlue Sep 2017 #45
Fear- Sen. Sanders has said negative stuff about the Democratic Party...and he undeniably has Demsrule86 Sep 2017 #60
K & R SunSeeker Sep 2017 #27
Polack... Hekate Sep 2017 #30
Hi. The Polack MSgt Sep 2017 #32
K&R betsuni Sep 2017 #34
Actually, the Obama-Trump voter numbers ARE significant. progressoid Sep 2017 #35
Actually, see my post below from WAPO emulatorloo Sep 2017 #52
So...it is possible to sway those voters to our side. progressoid Sep 2017 #76
Yes that's true! However assuming those Republicans were "disillusioned Democrats" isn't true, which emulatorloo Sep 2017 #83
As I told others... I have seen polls showing the numbers were not significant. Demsrule86 Sep 2017 #62
re: bashing progressoid Sep 2017 #78
Good point and then there were the lies, Russia, Comey, Facebook, Twitter...and I have still Demsrule86 Sep 2017 #79
K&R Gothmog Sep 2017 #36
K&R justhanginon Sep 2017 #37
I can't thank you enough for posting this. NurseJackie Sep 2017 #41
There is a double standard here -- the exact opposite of the one you say. (n/t) Jim Lane Sep 2017 #47
Thanx for the input. NT The Polack MSgt Sep 2017 #50
Good read from WAPO: "Theres no such thing as a Trump Democrat" emulatorloo Sep 2017 #51
Thank you for the link. The Polack MSgt Sep 2017 #54
Beyond Sick Of These "Threads".... LovingA2andMI Sep 2017 #53
That's you're prerogative. No issues here... The Polack MSgt Sep 2017 #55
The difference between former Obama voters and so called Bernie Bros is stark. Kentonio Sep 2017 #56
Thank you, that's well argued The Polack MSgt Sep 2017 #65
End of the day he lost the primary and that's fair. Kentonio Sep 2017 #67
I concede that it's possible. You could be right, but I don't think so... The Polack MSgt Sep 2017 #70
i am sorry i thought loyalty oaths were just a gop thing dembotoz Sep 2017 #72
He says to a man who swore the Oath of Enlistment 5 times. The Polack MSgt Sep 2017 #73
what you are suggesting would cut my local dem party by 2/3 dembotoz Sep 2017 #74
Well said, sir. Too bad your words fall on deaf ears. GoneOffShore Sep 2017 #75
Rec For Honesty Me. Sep 2017 #77
exactly how I feel (nt) louis c Sep 2017 #81
Latest Discussions»General Discussion»Look I know that I've bee...»Reply #31