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35. Actually, the Obama-Trump voter numbers ARE significant.

Reply to The Polack MSgt (Original post)

Wed Sep 6, 2017, 11:37 PM

Sep 2017

Latinos in 2012 voted 71% for Obama.
Lations in 2016: 65% voted for Clinton.

(That's quite a shift considering the things Trump called them)

African Americans in 2012: 93% for Obama.
African Americans in 2016: 89% for Clinton.

(plus the AA vote overall was lower in 2016)

Union household in 2012: 58% for Obama.
Union household in 2016: 51% for Clinton.

Income under 50K in 2012: 60% for Obama.
Income under 50K in 2016: 53% for Clinton

etc.

etc.

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Look I know that I've been annoyingly strident on several threads since Monday [View all] The Polack MSgt Sep 2017 OP

"Passionate" sounds better than "annoyingly strident". guillaumeb Sep 2017 #1

Oh, there is mcar Sep 2017 #2

And if anyone points out the double-standard, the reply is always a dismissive one... NurseJackie Sep 2017 #57

Just today - a thread on a Politico article mcar Sep 2017 #61

The people who attack and smear Kamala Harris are fucking assholes! It's unclear to me... NurseJackie Sep 2017 #64

But even the slightest critique (well-sourced) of someone mcar Sep 2017 #66

"Our Revolution" now supports Republicans, right? Shouldn't that mean... NurseJackie Sep 2017 #68

It is a fair question mcar Sep 2017 #69

Very well said, thank you very much. George II Sep 2017 #3

Thank you JustAnotherGen Sep 2017 #4

Well said. sheshe2 Sep 2017 #5

Counts: Ms. Toad Sep 2017 #6

Thank you for your input. The Polack MSgt Sep 2017 #12

Since the front page of gd prior to the book release Ms. Toad Sep 2017 #39

K&R UTUSN Sep 2017 #7

K&R. Thank you! lunamagica Sep 2017 #8

It was the Russians interference in the primaries and general. AngryAmish Sep 2017 #9

K and R. lapucelle Sep 2017 #10

It all comes down to one thing BainsBane Sep 2017 #11

Two things. zentrum Sep 2017 #13

Thank you! Madam Mossfern Sep 2017 #16

Your idea zentrum Sep 2017 #19

I'm not claiming the high ground The Polack MSgt Sep 2017 #28

I mostly skip these threads, but glad I looked at this one mountain grammy Sep 2017 #17

Forward! zentrum Sep 2017 #22

Best post I've seen yet in all the recent Circular Firing Squad threads. klook Sep 2017 #38

Thank you for this! nt. druidity33 Sep 2017 #46

There were many, many, many more Bernie supporters than HRC supporters. That hasn't changed. Lil Missy Sep 2017 #48

Your understanding of the rules is simply wrong vis-a-vis Bernie Sanders. Jim Lane Sep 2017 #58

Stating facts, even if unpleasant, is not "bashing". Lil Missy Sep 2017 #63

I can assure you, from personal experience.... Jim Lane Sep 2017 #71

Which has absolutely nothing to my comment that "Stating facts is not the same as bashing". Lil Missy Sep 2017 #80

Oh, I agree with that comment of yours -- as a generalization. Jim Lane Sep 2017 #82

There weren't or Hillary Clinton would not have run in the general...and it wasn't close either. Demsrule86 Sep 2017 #59

Thank you, thank you, thank you. Maven Sep 2017 #14

Nah Lordquinton Sep 2017 #15

16% in PA. 12% in MI The Polack MSgt Sep 2017 #20

You do realize that 20-25% is a higher number than even your estimate of PA and MI right? mythology Sep 2017 #31

30 years of propaganda The Polack MSgt Sep 2017 #33

Both less that 20-25% Lordquinton Sep 2017 #43

For real tho - I have not mentioned the primary in this OP or any of my replies. The Polack MSgt Sep 2017 #44

Very well stated. UtahLib Sep 2017 #18

Well said, TPMS. brer cat Sep 2017 #21

I'm a life long Democrat.. i haven't missed an election since I turned 18 back in 1978. CentralMass Sep 2017 #23

Well said. zentrum Sep 2017 #42

Thank and I agree with you. CentralMass Sep 2017 #49

Pitch perfect! NurseJackie Sep 2017 #24

I agree. murielm99 Sep 2017 #25

questions before I trash this thread like every other tymorial Sep 2017 #26

I don't alert or trash or ignore. The Polack MSgt Sep 2017 #29

excellent post! m-lekktor Sep 2017 #40

Excellent question... I notice the OP did not answer you. SalviaBlue Sep 2017 #45

Fear- Sen. Sanders has said negative stuff about the Democratic Party...and he undeniably has Demsrule86 Sep 2017 #60

K & R SunSeeker Sep 2017 #27

Polack... Hekate Sep 2017 #30

Hi. The Polack MSgt Sep 2017 #32

K&R betsuni Sep 2017 #34

Actually, the Obama-Trump voter numbers ARE significant. progressoid Sep 2017 #35

Actually, see my post below from WAPO emulatorloo Sep 2017 #52

So...it is possible to sway those voters to our side. progressoid Sep 2017 #76

Yes that's true! However assuming those Republicans were "disillusioned Democrats" isn't true, which emulatorloo Sep 2017 #83

As I told others... I have seen polls showing the numbers were not significant. Demsrule86 Sep 2017 #62

re: bashing progressoid Sep 2017 #78

Good point and then there were the lies, Russia, Comey, Facebook, Twitter...and I have still Demsrule86 Sep 2017 #79

K&R Gothmog Sep 2017 #36

K&R justhanginon Sep 2017 #37

I can't thank you enough for posting this. NurseJackie Sep 2017 #41

There is a double standard here -- the exact opposite of the one you say. (n/t) Jim Lane Sep 2017 #47

Thanx for the input. NT The Polack MSgt Sep 2017 #50

Good read from WAPO: "Theres no such thing as a Trump Democrat" emulatorloo Sep 2017 #51

Thank you for the link. The Polack MSgt Sep 2017 #54

Beyond Sick Of These "Threads".... LovingA2andMI Sep 2017 #53

That's you're prerogative. No issues here... The Polack MSgt Sep 2017 #55

The difference between former Obama voters and so called Bernie Bros is stark. Kentonio Sep 2017 #56

Thank you, that's well argued The Polack MSgt Sep 2017 #65

End of the day he lost the primary and that's fair. Kentonio Sep 2017 #67

I concede that it's possible. You could be right, but I don't think so... The Polack MSgt Sep 2017 #70

i am sorry i thought loyalty oaths were just a gop thing dembotoz Sep 2017 #72

He says to a man who swore the Oath of Enlistment 5 times. The Polack MSgt Sep 2017 #73

what you are suggesting would cut my local dem party by 2/3 dembotoz Sep 2017 #74

Well said, sir. Too bad your words fall on deaf ears. GoneOffShore Sep 2017 #75

Rec For Honesty Me. Sep 2017 #77

exactly how I feel (nt) louis c Sep 2017 #81