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ucrdem

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50. He's been saying that since 1994 at least.

Thu Sep 7, 2017, 03:24 AM

Sep 2017

All through the Bill Clinton presidency, then all through the Obama presidency. I can guess what he considers "success" but I can't post it here.

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The Democratic party is an absolute failure. [View all] Eko Sep 2017 OP

GOPers control all three gvt branches right now n/t leftstreet Sep 2017 #1

So did the Democratic party fairly recent. Eko Sep 2017 #2

Do you know how long Obama had "all theee branches"? Obviously not.... bettyellen Sep 2017 #8

Not that long ago Eko Sep 2017 #13

It's not subjective to say Trumps already had those majorities longer than Obama did in 8 years. bettyellen Sep 2017 #19

Hopefully it wont Eko Sep 2017 #23

Trump has not had the majorities longer...they took the house in 10 if we take the house in 18, it Demsrule86 Sep 2017 #59

You'd better research that. With Ted Kennedy's death and Al Franken's recount, the summer... brush Sep 2017 #88

We did not have a veto proof majority after Kennedy's death or Franken's recount Demsrule86 Sep 2017 #90

Aren't you saying the same thing I am? We didn't have a filibuster proof majority for a continuous.. brush Sep 2017 #92

No the Republicans have 52 Senators at this moment...they do not have a veto proof majority. Demsrule86 Sep 2017 #94

My point is Obama did not have a continuous 2-year, filibuster proof majority. Is that not true? brush Sep 2017 #99

Oh...sorry. I agree with that. I thought you meant that the GOP is in a better position than Obama Demsrule86 Sep 2017 #105

Glad you guys figured it out. Agree with both. Hortensis Sep 2017 #134

Yes. And too many times on the cable news shows that contention goes unchallenged. brush Sep 2017 #146

Umhm. Almost always. All day and into the mid evening reliably. Hortensis Sep 2017 #147

At some points he had the majority for mere days and then lost it.... bettyellen Sep 2017 #143

Ugh is right. Lieberman was not dependable. brush Sep 2017 #144

Um...obergefell happened in 2015 Docreed2003 Sep 2017 #33

So we didnt need all three branches Eko Sep 2017 #42

We held all branches until 10 when we lost the house...and if some could stop criticizing Democrats Demsrule86 Sep 2017 #58

The Judicial? HughBeaumont Sep 2017 #60

You're totally right. Thanks. bettyellen Sep 2017 #121

Two branches -nt Bradical79 Sep 2017 #98

Whoops. Although I fondly look back at Sotomayor's appointment... bettyellen Sep 2017 #122

Yeah, she was a pretty great addition Bradical79 Sep 2017 #124

GOP holds a majority of state governments, too. CrispyQ Sep 2017 #126

We have Gorsuch on the Supreme Court for 2+ generations. mountain grammy Sep 2017 #3

Major blow, Eko Sep 2017 #4

The worst is yet to come if we don't take back the Senate mountain grammy Sep 2017 #7

That should be petitioned in the courts icymist Sep 2017 #52

There is not way to do that. You have to vote for Democrats in order to save the courts period. Demsrule86 Sep 2017 #61

And we still got a Republican Suprene Court nominee. ZX86 Sep 2017 #168

Right but we wouldn't have had Hillary Clinton been elected...they might have refused to seat her Demsrule86 Sep 2017 #169

You hit the mail on the head. Great post lunamagica Sep 2017 #5

Good moose... Whiskeytide Sep 2017 #6

So Eko Sep 2017 #10

I did. Whiskeytide Sep 2017 #12

Yes you did. Eko Sep 2017 #15

"An absolute failure..." This from an alleged ally. He has continually attacked the party... brush Sep 2017 #9

More re-fighting old battles. shanny Sep 2017 #11

Yes, Eko Sep 2017 #16

Everyone says things in frustration. Me included mvd Sep 2017 #29

Im a retail manager. Eko Sep 2017 #38

In a way.. but the party has to leave him behind to move on nini Sep 2017 #31

Lol shanny Sep 2017 #48

Laugh all you want nini Sep 2017 #96

you're right, i shouldn't laugh shanny Sep 2017 #100

Really?? This isn't hard. Hillary doesn't attack the Democratic party. R B Garr Sep 2017 #101

so the Democrats in Congress saying that this book is counter-productive shanny Sep 2017 #106

"the Democrats" aren't saying that. And Bernie does plenty of whining. This thread R B Garr Sep 2017 #112

nice straw man shanny Sep 2017 #118

Wrong. No strawman. You said, "the Democrats in Congress" R B Garr Sep 2017 #119

I said "the Democrats in Congress saying..." shanny Sep 2017 #120

Then read your own sentence. You implied R B Garr Sep 2017 #123

If you think putting feelings and reactions in a book is the same nini Sep 2017 #103

i'll go with my original assessment shanny Sep 2017 #108

Of course you will nini Sep 2017 #110

We absolutely have to...or we will have a disastrous election in 18. Demsrule86 Sep 2017 #63

Excellent advice. brush Sep 2017 #89

This was said in August of this year and the battle won't end until some stop making comments like Demsrule86 Sep 2017 #62

Tell that to Bernie and the people who keep pushing him for 2020. pnwmom Sep 2017 #160

Post removed Post removed Sep 2017 #14

newsflash Skittles Sep 2017 #22

This includes Bernie - right? nini Sep 2017 #34

I Have No Problem With That Ccarmona Sep 2017 #47

You give your permission? Cary Sep 2017 #79

So it's not age then nini Sep 2017 #97

Yes, there should be no criticism of the party. progressoid Sep 2017 #17

absolute failure Eko Sep 2017 #20

It's not a statement of finality. progressoid Sep 2017 #30

absolute Eko Sep 2017 #32

Sure. Really funny. progressoid Sep 2017 #37

If words dont mean anything Eko Sep 2017 #40

Wow. progressoid Sep 2017 #45

Do those key words change Eko Sep 2017 #46

Yeah, we all want one of our major candidates from 2016 saying we're an absolute failure (sarcasm gi brush Sep 2017 #91

actually, to put a fine point on it, G_j Sep 2017 #35

And that differs how? Eko Sep 2017 #41

Providing a complete sentence G_j Sep 2017 #43

I provided the link Eko Sep 2017 #44

Thank you. nt Susan Calvin Sep 2017 #125

What you consider stupid shit others might not consider it so...but yeah in the age of Trump Demsrule86 Sep 2017 #64

POINT! GAME, SET, MATCH! haveahart Sep 2017 #18

that's what happens when you don't have Russia, the FBI and the media on your side Skittles Sep 2017 #21

And the malignant dark-money kleptocrats, all entered AGAINST the Democrats. Hortensis Sep 2017 #136

and fucking FACEBOOK Skittles Sep 2017 #148

We get it mythology Sep 2017 #24

You dont get it. Eko Sep 2017 #25

Its been 11 months since the election Eko Sep 2017 #27

This has nothing to do with the primary. Sen. Sanders has made derogatory remarks Demsrule86 Sep 2017 #66

Thank you. murielm99 Sep 2017 #26

Thanks. Eko Sep 2017 #28

I made a similar post not long ago...you are not the only one. I live in Ohio Demsrule86 Sep 2017 #68

🤗 sprinkleeninow Sep 2017 #36

About Time? shanny Sep 2017 #49

Maybe some of these Dems need to be primaried NCDem777 Sep 2017 #54

Of course the evil Dems must be dealt with ....why they want to deport DACA Demsrule86 Sep 2017 #69

And there are plenty of Dems who also wanted to start more wars NCDem777 Sep 2017 #145

Maybe it would be better to murielm99 Sep 2017 #162

As long as Sanders is out there trashing Democrats.... Historic NY Sep 2017 #39

He's been saying that since 1994 at least. ucrdem Sep 2017 #50

'current model and the current strategy ' melman Sep 2017 #51

conservatives think that the podesta emails clu Sep 2017 #53

It hit every newspaper in the country...Why would Sanders echo conservatives...and Podesta emails Demsrule86 Sep 2017 #70

did you read the BBC link clu Sep 2017 #75

Yes I read it, and I don't agree with it...having read Podesta's email first hand. Demsrule86 Sep 2017 #82

I don't care for Nina Turner blueinredohio Sep 2017 #55

I despise her...and how about Move On primarying Tim Ryan? Demsrule86 Sep 2017 #71

This message was self-deleted by its author m-lekktor Sep 2017 #56

Exactly what do we think Citizens United has done to our two major parties? Orsino Sep 2017 #57

Yeah and if we did what Sanders suggested, we would lose every election... Demsrule86 Sep 2017 #72

helping bush against gore? clu Sep 2017 #76

The old Nader-stole-it meme won't die. Orsino Sep 2017 #80

Nader caused the United victory...and in the age of Trump to call Democrats 'corporate' Demsrule86 Sep 2017 #102

We know that unilateral disarmament won't happen... Orsino Sep 2017 #138

A recent interview with the evil one, where he makes some valid points. CrispyQ Sep 2017 #132

Yep. Even Nader is bothering to note... Orsino Sep 2017 #139

I don't care to read anything murielm99 Sep 2017 #142

Sorry it was Nader...who cost us the election...and the Green rifffaff who claimed Demsrule86 Sep 2017 #81

The election that Gore won? Orsino Sep 2017 #131

The party was also diminshed and tarnished with descriptions such as... NurseJackie Sep 2017 #65

He is not an ally. He votes with Democrats mostly as they share ideology...in most cases. Demsrule86 Sep 2017 #74

You're right. People should look at a politicians WORDS and DEEDS before... NurseJackie Sep 2017 #77

I fear Sen.Sanders will try again in 20...hope not. Demsrule86 Sep 2017 #78

He may. But not as a Democrat. I suspect his protected status as an "ally"... NurseJackie Sep 2017 #83

I hope the current Dem leadership would not allow him to run as a Democrat. He is not a Democrat. Demsrule86 Sep 2017 #84

They won't. I think they learned a lesson. NurseJackie Sep 2017 #93

If they didn't after the general, they sure should have after the so called unity tour. Demsrule86 Sep 2017 #107

That was a complete disaster. What a sham. NurseJackie Sep 2017 #109

It was horrible...women thrown under the bus...and the party attacked constantly. Demsrule86 Sep 2017 #117

Exactly, can you imagine if anything like that was publicly said about Sanders? R B Garr Sep 2017 #95

Post removed Post removed Sep 2017 #67

Sometimes.. disillusioned73 Sep 2017 #73

Hmmm. What Could Have Happened In 2008, I Wonder ProfessorGAC Sep 2017 #85

Yes, there was that affect.. disillusioned73 Sep 2017 #87

I Buy That (nt) ProfessorGAC Sep 2017 #116

depressing.. nt G_j Sep 2017 #86

And yet, he desperately wanted to be the 2016 DEM PARTY presidential nominee! MoonRiver Sep 2017 #104

Are you guys ever going to stop tearing the party apart? awesomerwb1 Sep 2017 #111

Nice misleading representation of what was said. berni_mccoy Sep 2017 #113

Just stop already ornotna Sep 2017 #137

See post 153. Eko Sep 2017 #155

Repeat after me: Sen Sanders is adamant that HE IS NOT A DEMOCRAT. stopbush Sep 2017 #114

Well, looking at the state of affairs in washington, the dem party certainly isn't sucessful... JoeStuckInOH Sep 2017 #115

Excellent post. CrispyQ Sep 2017 #135

a wise person once told me 'Its not how big it is.... samnsara Sep 2017 #127

Here's a critique of the party from someone who people hate even more than Bernie. CrispyQ Sep 2017 #128

Listen for the sigh of frustration. guillaumeb Sep 2017 #129

Thanks for this. NastyRiffraff Sep 2017 #130

Message auto-removed Name removed Sep 2017 #133

He is none of the above. MrsCoffee Sep 2017 #140

I agree with your analysis Gothmog Sep 2017 #141

An English Lesson for you Rilgin Sep 2017 #149

The quote you 'fix' is exactly the same thing...it is an attack on the Democratic Party and you Demsrule86 Sep 2017 #150

The OP opinion is his opinion. His misquote of anothers sentence is not Rilgin Sep 2017 #151

I haven't seen attacks...but there is no doubt Sen. Sanders had been critical of the Democratic Demsrule86 Sep 2017 #152

No. That is a fair characterization Rilgin Sep 2017 #154

I happen to believe that Sen. Sander does in fact dislike the Democratic Party and has for years. Demsrule86 Sep 2017 #161

See post 153. Eko Sep 2017 #156

I honestly take you post seriously. Eko Sep 2017 #153

I'm sorry, but G_j Sep 2017 #157

I did quote accurately. Eko Sep 2017 #158

No, You took words and attributed them to what was not the subject of a sentence. Rilgin Sep 2017 #159

Ok here is some english. Eko Sep 2017 #163

You are right, i remembered "strategy" as "tactics". The point remains the same. Rilgin Sep 2017 #164

I dont believe I ever added quotes to the paraphrase. Eko Sep 2017 #165

Oh yeah. Eko Sep 2017 #166

And last but not least. Eko Sep 2017 #167