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In reply to the discussion: You Need To Stop [View all]Autumn
(48,952 posts)Those Independents and other 3rd party supporters aren't going away, they have been running in our elections in the 58 presidential elections since 1788. On my ballot there were 20 third party candidate running for President plus the Dem and the Republican candidates. Hillary won my state easily. I think we Dems should go after their voters but the main problem that I see is the EC vote.
Hillary won the election by over 3 million votes. Those 50K voting for Stein shouldn't mean a damn thing and like I said IMO the EC is the second biggest problem we face.in our elections, rhe first being voter supression. And we Dems have got to get people out to vote in every election, not just when they fall in love with a candiadte, not just the Presidential elections. President Obama said the other day "Elections matter and every vote matters" That is a whole lot of truth right there. And if our Dem leadership won't reach out for those votes they won't get them. That's all there is to it. We can win, even with third party spoilers running, we have before.
In the 58 presidential elections since 1788, third party or independent candidates have won at least 5.0% of the vote or garnered electoral votes 12 times (21%); this does not count George Washington, who was elected as an independent in 17881789 and 1792, but who largerly supported Federalist policies and was supported by Federalists. The last third party candidate to win a state was George Wallace of the American Independent Party in 1968, while the last third party candidate to win more than 5.0% of the vote was Ross Perot, who ran as an independent and as the standard-bearer of the Reform Party in 1992 and 1996, respectively. The most recent third party candidates to receive an electoral vote were Libertarian Ron Paul and Yankton Sioux Nation independent Faith Spotted Eagle who received a vote each from faithless electors in 2016.