General Discussion
In reply to the discussion: I know it's popular to knock down Bernie Sanders BUT [View all]Ninsianna
(1,354 posts)He's the most popular group of Paul Ryan, Mitch Mcconnell, Trump, Pence etc.
So looking at the questions asked, and the people included in the list is kind of important when evaluating polls. So these polls don't verify anything other than the fond beliefs of fans.
One can actually deny the pull a politician has, when the people he endorses don't win, when bills are not sponsored or co sponsored and nothing much is accomplished.
Hillary Clinton is selling out crowds all over the place, so it's not a true comment to state that. Her book is placed higher on the Amazon lists than Sanders book, and her tour is going pretty well.
He didn't bring people into the political process, he sold them a bill of goods and spread disinformation about the parties, how basic government works and has tainted a bunch of them into not even bothered to register. Lots of Democrats are standing by unions and fighting for workers, for citizens etc. It's a dishonest disservice to pretend that Demcorats are not doing this or that they have not been doing this. Bernie really isn't THAT popular, but there is a lot of false hype about his supposed popularity and all the things he's doing. His own constituents would like to see him, even if it's just for a book signing, but he keeps bypassing Vermont for some reason.
It's weird that when it's about Bernie, age is just a number, but when it's about anyone else, it's a whole lot of whining about "teh olds". Bernie isn't really at the forefront, but the many, many Democrats who actually are out there on the issues, whose names don't figure in popularity polls, and who are actually outfront doing their jobs ARE.
We have a coalition, we know how to build them, and we're organized, we just have a bunch of loud, whiny people demanding that we "bend the knee" and disenfranchise the Democratic base by excluding them from participating, if they're older, disabled, have jobs, have children, etc. The time has come to stop the silliness and the popularity BS and concentrate on the party and the people who are doing all the work rather, we've got a great many talented and POPULAR leaders who are in the party, not trying to divide anyone and working hard to fight gerrymandering, voter suppression, to register voters and educate them. It would be great if Bernie would join them, and direct all that influence over his own people to help and not hinder our efforts. We'd welcome their efforts, but we won't be "bending the knee" or bending over backwards. Get on board and do the work or get out of the way, we don't have time for popularity contests and tantrums.