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MineralMan

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51. Lyons makes some good points in that.

Fri Sep 8, 2017, 10:26 AM

Sep 2017

While it's crucial to fight the fascists, how that is done is also important. As Lyons points out, violent reaction action rarely accomplishes broader goals and can lead to a loss of support from people who are not directly involved, meaning voters in general.

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Yes, Antifa Is Very Dangerous -- But Not To Fascists - by Gene Lyons [View all] DonViejo Sep 2017 OP

If you use violence in some "leftist" cause, you might as well as join the KKK... Thomas Hurt Sep 2017 #1

Absolutely! get the red out Sep 2017 #2

He wants us to get beaten and killed so we'll get sympathy leftstreet Sep 2017 #3

Gene Lyons??? OKNancy Sep 2017 #4

Well, Nixon has been described as the last liberal President leftstreet Sep 2017 #5

That is a mistake made with the clouds of time. He was an evil son-of-a-bitch OKNancy Sep 2017 #7

I don't think Obama was mistaken leftstreet Sep 2017 #8

You are comparing Barack Obama to Richard Nixon on a forum designed to support Democrats? Expecting Rain Sep 2017 #9

LOL oh knock it off! leftstreet Sep 2017 #11

He was depriving Bill O'Reilly of talking points on FOX "News" Expecting Rain Sep 2017 #12

I don't care leftstreet Sep 2017 #13

You forced an out-of-context incident into a thread where it was irrelevant... Expecting Rain Sep 2017 #16

Alert if it's a violation of TOS leftstreet Sep 2017 #19

I don't want to talk about Bill O'Reilly either... Expecting Rain Sep 2017 #21

I think Obama said it for political reasons and he said "in some ways" OKNancy Sep 2017 #15

Exactly. In just the same way Bernie Sanders could have punked O'Reilly... Expecting Rain Sep 2017 #22

Big business brought us Nixon.. mountain grammy Sep 2017 #34

For the sake of optics we should just take the ass whooping, right? Jake Stern Sep 2017 #6

*barf* "Idiot professors" Please spare me. Coventina Sep 2017 #10

Agree with Coventina n/t Greybnk48 Sep 2017 #14

Do some research on "this guy." Both he and his wife are retired Professors. DonViejo Sep 2017 #18

But not with violence Not Ruth Sep 2017 #28

Gandhi got assassinated, as did Martin Luther King and the Kennedys. HughBeaumont Sep 2017 #32

Gandhi did just fine because the Germans Downtown Hound Sep 2017 #56

Truth x 1000. Efilroft Sul Sep 2017 #58

stand in the back, then. maxsolomon Sep 2017 #17

Nice ivory tower this guy has. Lucky him. politicat Sep 2017 #20

WASPy name? Then he must be a counter-revolutionary! Expecting Rain Sep 2017 #23

Six legs excellent! Eight legs get the planet! politicat Sep 2017 #24

So now we add people with WASPy names to the list of the privileged along with... Expecting Rain Sep 2017 #25

74 means that he has lived through Nazi Germany Not Ruth Sep 2017 #29

The right is spreading false narratives about the left. Initech Sep 2017 #26

Thank God others have noted the privilege this guy has....... socialist_n_TN Sep 2017 #27

What percentage of voters would you consider to be fascist? Not Ruth Sep 2017 #31

The 62 million who thought it would be the bees knees to put one in charge of our country. HughBeaumont Sep 2017 #33

Almost half.....would you consider most cops and military to be fascists? Not Ruth Sep 2017 #36

The cops for the most part IMO are fascists........ socialist_n_TN Sep 2017 #41

Thanks for all the replies, are there any organizations other than Antifa that are anti fascist? Not Ruth Sep 2017 #43

EVERYBODY is anti-fascist in words.......... socialist_n_TN Sep 2017 #45

I would say the DNC is sometimes an anti-fascist group Downtown Hound Sep 2017 #55

How do you tell the difference between a fascist and and authoritarian? Not Ruth Sep 2017 #49

Yooooouuuuu rreally don't want me to toss paint on those sacred cows . . . HughBeaumont Sep 2017 #44

This message was self-deleted by its author Not Ruth Sep 2017 #35

Voters are not the goal of fascists......... socialist_n_TN Sep 2017 #39

You seem to be saying that fascists do not vote, is that correct? Not Ruth Sep 2017 #40

No that is not what I'm saying......... socialist_n_TN Sep 2017 #42

I'd hope "dedicated and armed communists" would be stopped in infancy as well, being little better Marengo Sep 2017 #47

The fascists, Donald Trump, Jamie Dimon and all the other oligarchs...... socialist_n_TN Sep 2017 #50

Spare me the propaganda. In my youth I was involved with Bob Avakian's clown circus. As an adult... Marengo Sep 2017 #53

Stalinism (of which Maoism is a variant) is......... socialist_n_TN Sep 2017 #57

The Maoists of course disagree, considering themselves the only true ideological descendants... Marengo Sep 2017 #59

chicago was a police riot, you twit. mopinko Sep 2017 #30

Exactly! G_j Sep 2017 #48

It's inevitable Bradical79 Sep 2017 #37

Amen! LAS14 Sep 2017 #38

Antifa is not good for the Democratic Party. kentuck Sep 2017 #46

Lyons makes some good points in that. MineralMan Sep 2017 #51

Those "innocent victims" of Antifa beatings weren't so innocent. backscatter712 Sep 2017 #52

Another pseudo intellectual pansy who fancies himself the keeper of "the right way" to do things Downtown Hound Sep 2017 #54