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Hekate

(90,189 posts)
69. It was kind of random, you know?
Fri Sep 8, 2017, 12:40 PM
Sep 2017

Her dad is from Jamaica and her mom is from India. She is not bi-racial but multi-racial.

But this being America, where the media could never get a grip on Tiger Woods being half Thai and he finally gave up and just let them call him black, I think it was also the media that definitively decided Kamala Devi Harris is African American.

Or maybe, confronted with a row of "pick only one" boxes all her life, she assigned it to herself. I follow her on FB, and her posts are heavily weighted toward African American achievements.

I am an Irish-American, raised in a multi-ethnic culture where it was the norm to be multi-racial. At some point in my youth I realized that both cultural identity and race itself are malleable. (In 1968 a college roommate told me the dread secret of a friend of hers: he was an octoroon. I looked at this young man with the square Saxon face, blue eyes, and straight blond hair, and realized that traditional Southern attitudes toward race were 100% insane.) Kids where I grew up could reel off the family tree from Denmark to China and all of Polynesia with a grin.

Sorry to go on like this, but it is a pet peeve of mine. I tried to write last night but had to quit. I have been back on the Mainland for almost 40 years, and can still be taken by surprise, tho why I don't know. After all, in Hawai'i I was just another haole (Irish? Pfft), but in California was informed by an African American co-worker that I am an Anglo, which would make my Irish ancestors turn over in their graves. My husband was born a Jew in Belgium, raised a Jew in New York, and transmogrified into an Anglo in California. When I was on the County Affirmative Action Commission, a younger Latino said in an accusatory tone that all the members of a particular subcommittee except himself were "WASPs," but I laughed in his face. I said, "Wrong by definition. Two Jews, two Irish, and a Catholic will never be Anglo-Saxon Protestant."

Ooh, Blue Apron! We love food! eom sprinkleeninow Sep 2017 #1
I approve greeny2323 Sep 2017 #2
Yea Difi should have been gone long ago. Egnever Sep 2017 #4
We love Dianne Feinstein here in California. Expecting Rain Sep 2017 #9
Post removed Post removed Sep 2017 #29
Please don't miss this old OP about Feinstein: Madam45for2923 Sep 2017 #151
Certain people are eally pushing this meme for all it is worth. Makes me wonder... Hekate Sep 2017 #159
expecting rain clu Sep 2017 #165
Do you live here? Which district? You know how many of our Congressmen are Repubs? Hekate Sep 2017 #19
Ronald effing Reagan came from CA n/t wryter2000 Sep 2017 #54
So did Richard Nixon. Our staunch Dem Congressman is a freshman... Hekate Sep 2017 #70
this is a very valid concern clu Sep 2017 #155
Illinois is not in California DFW Sep 2017 #102
His political career was in California wryter2000 Sep 2017 #115
He was governor of California. tammywammy Sep 2017 #117
I have wondered just how many posters telling California what to do are even from California still_one Sep 2017 #58
I have wondered just how many posters telling California what to do are from Russian. stonecutter357 Sep 2017 #126
Claiming that everyone you disagree with is a russian troll is ridiculous. Voltaire2 Sep 2017 #127
lol. stonecutter357 Sep 2017 #129
Once you realize that the Calexit proposal is run by a guy with an office in Russia... Hekate Sep 2017 #160
There are lots of conservatives and Republicans in CA n/t emulatorloo Sep 2017 #30
Rich and they make up a huge part of the 1%. haveahart Sep 2017 #59
Not necessarily Hekate Sep 2017 #161
Um, did you know California has a lot of Blue Dog Democrats up in Sacramento? Brother Buzz Sep 2017 #67
I hadn't heard about him till now... CaliforniaPeggy Sep 2017 #3
another wall street insider one % er nt msongs Sep 2017 #5
Do we like 1%ers now?: leftofcool Sep 2017 #6
Wow, you guys are way ahead of me... Expecting Rain Sep 2017 #8
Let's do the math, shall we? nbsmom Sep 2017 #142
Sure, let's do the math. Expecting Rain Sep 2017 #143
"Populist demagoguery that turns off most CA Democrats" WHAT? nbsmom Sep 2017 #144
I'm the kind of Democrat who voted for Kamala Harris. Expecting Rain Sep 2017 #148
Meaning you had the opportunity to vote for Loretta Sanchez and didn't nbsmom Sep 2017 #156
No. Both candidates were equally new in running for the office. Expecting Rain Sep 2017 #157
thanks for sharing clu Sep 2017 #162
Isn't Dianne Feinstein a very wealthy person as well? awesomerwb1 Sep 2017 #91
Hope the new wealthy challenger will be able to do what DiFi just did leftofcool Sep 2017 #7
No one will ever be 100% -- I am just fed up with fools who cannot see what we will lose... Hekate Sep 2017 #12
Some outside CA might also be surprised that a "primary" doesn't... Expecting Rain Sep 2017 #14
As a non-Californian I was kind of surprised comradebillyboy Sep 2017 #77
Loretta Sanchez's district is Orange County. In my opinion she is a solid Dem, but her constituency Hekate Sep 2017 #95
As a non Californian I had heard a lot about Loretta Sanchez comradebillyboy Sep 2017 #96
Kamala was our State DA, so ran for statewide office to get there before running for Senate Hekate Sep 2017 #98
Harris looks like she has a lot of promise. comradebillyboy Sep 2017 #119
We will most likely lose every seat we run for in 2018. leftofcool Sep 2017 #21
Like I said: fools Hekate Sep 2017 #23
Well at least the "replace liberal Pelosi with a fresh-blooded conserva-Dem" fad is over. emulatorloo Sep 2017 #28
For now. Then some little group will start a hissy fit again. nt Hekate Sep 2017 #50
"Yet these same Dems get things done" - but we haven't been getting it done, that's the problem. Voltaire2 Sep 2017 #128
I had no idea that Harris was being attacked for her lineage Lucinda Sep 2017 #33
It was kind of random, you know? Hekate Sep 2017 #69
My poor health is both a painful thing, and in many ways a blessing...I have lots of free time Lucinda Sep 2017 #87
Being from NY, I can see it clearly... TreasonousBastard Sep 2017 #46
Preach it, sister wryter2000 Sep 2017 #89
Had to check to make sure I was on the correct site. democratisphere Sep 2017 #10
It sure feels that way from time to time. Lucinda Sep 2017 #34
So, Feinstein is your idea of a good Dem? FiveGoodMen Sep 2017 #93
Feinstein is a Dem. Bernie is not. The last thing Dems need to endorse democratisphere Sep 2017 #120
Try again HarmonyRockets Sep 2017 #122
Sure, so let's perpetuate the status quo by replacing one millionaire with perhaps a billionaire. democratisphere Sep 2017 #131
LOL WALL STREET R B Garr Sep 2017 #11
She has had one for awhile CloudsInMyCoffee Sep 2017 #13
Hildebrand sounds like a 2%er Expecting Rain Sep 2017 #15
Is he not a Dem? CloudsInMyCoffee Sep 2017 #16
He is a democratic socialist running as a Democrat. Hell Hath No Fury Sep 2017 #18
Thank you for the confirmation! CloudsInMyCoffee Sep 2017 #20
No where on his website does it say he's "running AS a Democrat" Expecting Rain Sep 2017 #24
David Hildebrand is already in -- Hell Hath No Fury Sep 2017 #17
He will lose and hopefully be drummed out of politics...anyone that primaries a sitting Democrat Demsrule86 Sep 2017 #103
Can you please explain HarmonyRockets Sep 2017 #123
Timing is everything...we have no branches of government...going after Dem seats instead of trying Demsrule86 Sep 2017 #135
Very unfortunate SoCalNative Sep 2017 #22
Ah No That Is Incorrect ChubbyStar Sep 2017 #31
She won't be voted out. She will either comradebillyboy Sep 2017 #78
Post removed Post removed Sep 2017 #90
This native son hasn't forgotten... Expecting Rain Sep 2017 #25
It ever occur to y'all that she buttered up Trump so he'd be receptive to Chuck and Nancy? emulatorloo Sep 2017 #26
No kidding. The logic of last week's smear campaign totally collapsed... Expecting Rain Sep 2017 #27
Of course only those who want to attack Dems would find this to be a problem...kind of demonstrates Demsrule86 Sep 2017 #104
Yes, it occured to me too, that she had an agenda based on moving Democratic ideas forward. Hekate Sep 2017 #163
This message was self-deleted by its author Warren DeMontague Sep 2017 #32
I think you're spinning a false narritive that Dianne Feinstein is out of touch... Expecting Rain Sep 2017 #36
This message was self-deleted by its author Warren DeMontague Sep 2017 #37
No, that connected her with people who don't believe in undercutting American presidents Expecting Rain Sep 2017 #38
This message was self-deleted by its author Warren DeMontague Sep 2017 #39
Oy vey DemocratSinceBirth Sep 2017 #41
You seem to have reading comprehension issues. She, like HRC, voted to give then Expecting Rain Sep 2017 #48
It was not the correct thing to do and here's why melman Sep 2017 #52
Apparently Saddam didn't know that or he'd have complied with UN resolutions and avoided... Expecting Rain Sep 2017 #55
So the more dangerous act then was the AUMF that gave these war hungry Ninsianna Sep 2017 #92
Right melman Sep 2017 #121
I was making it about the only pure member of congress, Rep. Barbara Lee Ninsianna Sep 2017 #125
its a beautiful thing clu Sep 2017 #168
Nope melman Sep 2017 #170
This message was self-deleted by its author Warren DeMontague Sep 2017 #100
The feeling is mutual... Expecting Rain Sep 2017 #101
at least i know who to ignore clu Sep 2017 #164
No, I'm a Hillary fan, but we can't rewrite the vote that she has apologized for. MrsCoffee Sep 2017 #116
Senator Clinton made the reasons and her concerns very clear in a speech she made before she cast... Expecting Rain Sep 2017 #118
Feinstein, Clinton and many other Dems rightly believed in a UN remedy oasis Sep 2017 #139
Correct. These leading Democrats, arguably our party's top 3 Expecting Rain Sep 2017 #149
"She, like HRC," - you started out ok, then it all went terribly wrong. Voltaire2 Sep 2017 #130
The correct move NCDem777 Sep 2017 #133
Can you read? Expecting Rain Sep 2017 #64
Wow, that is some take melman Sep 2017 #40
Our nominee had exactly the same position when she voted for the resolution. Expecting Rain Sep 2017 #49
Noob poster clearly -- Hell Hath No Fury Sep 2017 #62
No. A guy with an degree in International Relations from UC Berkeley... Expecting Rain Sep 2017 #68
Dems who voted for IWR were doing nothing more than covering their ass BeyondGeography Sep 2017 #81
Good analysis. HughBeaumont Sep 2017 #84
Is DEMOCRAT bashing allowed on this forum? Expecting Rain Sep 2017 #86
legalize Lonnie Anderson's hair H2O Man Sep 2017 #147
Not at all, and you are simply engaging in Democrat bashing based on fiction Expecting Rain Sep 2017 #172
was there a critical thinking class in that syllabus clu Sep 2017 #169
You best. And some really challenging courses in formal logic. Expecting Rain Sep 2017 #171
Wow... We really do have a cult of the executive branch in this country ck4829 Sep 2017 #43
Another... WOW! demmiblue Sep 2017 #63
Why should you be surprised? Expecting Rain Sep 2017 #65
Holy crap leftstreet Sep 2017 #66
HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA OMFG . . . . HughBeaumont Sep 2017 #79
comic genius H2O Man Sep 2017 #146
Any objective evidence to support that claim? LanternWaste Sep 2017 #74
Yeah, like I said, the IWR. Warren DeMontague Sep 2017 #99
She won't retire and she won't lose and all the money that could have gone to unseat a Republican Demsrule86 Sep 2017 #105
I'm not a California voter, but I was for a long time. Warren DeMontague Sep 2017 #108
Lot's of people voted for the war...so I don't care about it ...Kerry voted for it. Dems were lied Demsrule86 Sep 2017 #112
And lots of people- like Senator Boxer- DIDN'T vote for it. Warren DeMontague Sep 2017 #113
And a big who cares...I have seen the selective bashing on this site and other.s.. I am not Demsrule86 Sep 2017 #137
Invaluable experience on the hill. .. nocalflea Sep 2017 #35
Hillary won CA by over thirty points. DemocratSinceBirth Sep 2017 #42
I'm surprised at the DiFi hate. ProgressiveValue Sep 2017 #44
It is Democratic party hate. Some look for every excuse to bash Democrats and the Party.. Demsrule86 Sep 2017 #106
Maybe we just want better Democrats? HarmonyRockets Sep 2017 #124
hahah...at this point I just want Democrats...and by enabling the election of Republicans, you don't Demsrule86 Sep 2017 #134
That's not a good reason to support her. The AWB was a joke of a law. aikoaiko Sep 2017 #132
i'll concede a little to the right about fancy shiny guns clu Sep 2017 #167
"We?" mcar Sep 2017 #45
Bingo wryter2000 Sep 2017 #53
Hillary gives speeches to Wall St and she's evil. But this guy actually from Wall St is somehow ok? kcr Sep 2017 #47
LOL! That takes the cake, doesn't it? Double-standards layer-cake and hypocrisy-flavored frosting. NurseJackie Sep 2017 #56
But he ain't no damn woman!@ haveahart Sep 2017 #60
Well he is a man after all....nt comradebillyboy Sep 2017 #80
People get more upset over women . Debbie wasserman schultz has the least amount of wealth JI7 Sep 2017 #85
It is hilarious really. Demsrule86 Sep 2017 #107
this guy is a Man , Hillary and Feinstein are women . JI7 Sep 2017 #166
I thought DiFi was thinking of retirement. She is in her mid 80's... haele Sep 2017 #51
good at the very least, gopiscrap Sep 2017 #57
Oh Boy! Oh Boy! MineralMan Sep 2017 #61
The people that did this should join the GOP Party it is who they are...this only helps the GOP. Demsrule86 Sep 2017 #72
Well, they're young and inexperienced, I guess. MineralMan Sep 2017 #73
Yeah they would have to be either inexperienced, trolls, or just plain stupid. Demsrule86 Sep 2017 #75
I feel certain that Senator Feinstein is quite capable of MineralMan Sep 2017 #76
That is my issue...I know that single payer isn't coming anytime soon...so when those who are not Demsrule86 Sep 2017 #88
Thanks for reminding people how seniority works. Eliot Rosewater Sep 2017 #154
I was also wondering about this Gothmog Sep 2017 #94
Please don't miss this OP on the same topic: Madam45for2923 Sep 2017 #153
May this 'challanger' and those in instigated this in a year where Trump owns it all... go Demsrule86 Sep 2017 #71
When you say "progressive" I say "depressive." haveahart Sep 2017 #82
May challenge Feinstein means may do nothing Not Ruth Sep 2017 #83
It will be interesting to see what the voters in California will do here. Autumn Sep 2017 #97
Clearly they will bury the challenger...a so called socialist wall street guy...I can hear the ads Demsrule86 Sep 2017 #109
It's their Senate race. Autumn Sep 2017 #110
I am against primarying any sitting Democrat when we have nothing...so any group that does so Demsrule86 Sep 2017 #111
I liked Boxer and I like Feinstein. I'm not a Californian so it's not my choice. Autumn Sep 2017 #114
Nor mine, but I will send the party money and Feinstein...Move on...not one dime ever again. Demsrule86 Sep 2017 #136
I shitcaned Move on years ago. Autumn Sep 2017 #138
You were right. Demsrule86 Sep 2017 #140
Move on was created to get people to move past a corrupt supreme court installing Bush as president. Autumn Sep 2017 #141
I agree and not they will help elect folks worse than Bush probably. Demsrule86 Sep 2017 #145
moveon backed sanders against the DNC backed candidate clu Sep 2017 #173
That is a very sore point for me as we lost that election. And now we have Trump. Demsrule86 Sep 2017 #174
the implication seems to be that it's sanders fault clu Sep 2017 #175
If you say so...I have my own opinion. Demsrule86 Sep 2017 #177
nbsmom hello! Many q's here for you but haven't seen you respond! LOL! California resident or nah? Madam45for2923 Sep 2017 #150
I edited to show the whole name of the State of California. Madam45for2923 Sep 2017 #152
I am not from California so Democrats from that state can vote however they like. Willie Pep Sep 2017 #158
Actually, you have a lot of choices... brooklynite Sep 2017 #176
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