Sanders tanked Clinton.

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249. Caucuses disenfranchise

Voter ID is not the only voter disenfranchisement effort. It was one the GOP chose to shape the electorate in ways that favor them. Before caucuses there were literacy tests, poll taxes, and grandfather clauses. Caucuses have the lowest voter turnout of any system. They take place at one night or day and voting is allowed for one to two hours. That's it. It is extremely difficult to arrange absentee or proxy voting in most states. All data shows that caucuses disproportionately favor white property holders, who are far more affluent than the rest of the population.

You must have never worked on get-out-the-caucus efforts, or you would have encountered people who wanted to vote but could not: the elderly, the disabled, people who have to work, those with childcare obligations, and voters who find the process intimidating. That is why participation numbers are so small.

I sent you a link with all of his votes on national security matters. All of them. You can look through there to see any associated bills and amendments. There was nothing selective about that list. You can use that same site, votesmart, to look up votes under other subject areas or even all votes in all areas.

Of course you have a problem criticizing Sanders. You even have a problem criticizing his supporters, as your dismissal of the points I raised about voter disenfranchisement demonstrates. In another thread you pointed to a 2009 article from the ACLS to justify votes after that date. Clearly the issue of Gitmo and what that means for prisoners rights and US national security was not your concern there; rather your and the other poster's goal was to justify votes against closing the camp.

I approach politics very differently. My views are formed by what I think is morally just. I don't reverse engineer them to accommodate a particular politician's voting record. But then, I don't define myself according to any politician's career, and I don't spend off-election years attached to them. I wait until the election period and make a decision at that time. My views don't change based on who I support, and I won't justify votes that contradict with what I believe. I opposed and protested the Iraq War before and after it broke out, not just years later as far more have done. It played a large role in why I did not support Clinton in 2008. When I did decide to back her in 2016, I didn't run around making excuses for her vote (though I know some others did). I said it was wrong. I personally don't see why that is so difficult, yet somehow it appears to be impossible for a good many people, so difficult that they contort and twist their own views in order to accommodate the politician rather that asking them to represent their concerns I will never do that because I believe that politicians are elected to represent voters rather than citizens existing in service to any politician's political ambitions.