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zentrum

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35. We agree on one thing.

Sun Sep 10, 2017, 12:30 AM

Sep 2017

The Dems are prone to running not strong candidates.

That's one of the main problems.

Bernie campaigned for her, just like Dean, but I get it--it only counts when Dean does it. And of course, Bernie did nothing wrong by being in the primary. Its how the system works. Debate, critique--you know?

So--let's see, he divides, but they need him to join them for their caucus votes? Funny how that works.
Why not just toss him out of his seat in VT by running a strong opponent if he's such a divider?

He's a mediocre Senator? Suggest you look at her record while she did her short stint as Senator.
https://www.govtrack.us/congress/members/hillary_clinton/300022

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"The current model and strategy of the Sanders wing of the Democratic party is an absolute failure." [View all] Eko Sep 2017 OP

Yeah, you posted this already! Chasstev365 Sep 2017 #1

thanks for replying Eko Sep 2017 #2

If You Did I Didn't See It Me. Sep 2017 #3

Thanks Me! Eko Sep 2017 #5

That is an utterly pedantic argument mythology Sep 2017 #10

If reversing the argument is not substantially changing it Eko Sep 2017 #14

I see this fight at DU. mjvpi Sep 2017 #4

Nope, Eko Sep 2017 #6

I believe that the quotes Saunders quotes that you are using mjvpi Sep 2017 #9

There is a lot here to unpack. Eko Sep 2017 #11

What I don't get is that *we didn't lose!* The election was stolen from us. gtar100 Sep 2017 #7

Well, Eko Sep 2017 #8

Now that I've discovered it RandomAccess Sep 2017 #12

No problems Eko Sep 2017 #15

No flames from me lunamagica Sep 2017 #13

Thanks! Eko Sep 2017 #16

Blaming others and not accepting responsibility for your own shortcomings and failures. democratisphere Sep 2017 #17

Blaming others for what? Eko Sep 2017 #18

Sanders blames the Democratic Party for his loss in the primaries. democratisphere Sep 2017 #20

You are going to write this with a straight face after the last election? m-lekktor Sep 2017 #19

Nor was that the "Sanders wing" that led to a 900 seat loss and a Fascist takeover. HughBeaumont Sep 2017 #21

And now Baucus says we need single payer leftstreet Sep 2017 #24

FAT LOT OF GOOD THAT DOES US NOW, MAX!!! HughBeaumont Sep 2017 #25

He KNEW he could NOT get 60 votes for either of those plans karynnj Sep 2017 #55

And I reiterate - THAT. SHOULD. NOT. BE. HughBeaumont Sep 2017 #56

Let's say Bernie were the chair of the Finance committee that he has never sat on in 2009 karynnj Sep 2017 #57

Except Single Payer wasn't what was being voted on. It was multi-payer. HughBeaumont Sep 2017 #58

If YOU were the chair of Finance or the majority leader karynnj Sep 2017 #62

+1 leftstreet Sep 2017 #23

Keep fighting that primary! Iggo Sep 2017 #22

Yeah, "business as usual" has been such a great selling point Warpy Sep 2017 #26

The Trump administration is an absolute failure. dchill Sep 2017 #27

Let's move on from bashing Bernie left-of-center2012 Sep 2017 #28

That sounds very much like murielm99 Sep 2017 #30

My post didn't come close to mentioning Hillary left-of-center2012 Sep 2017 #31

I didn't say you mentioned Hillary. murielm99 Sep 2017 #33

All I said is "let's move on" left-of-center2012 Sep 2017 #44

Did Bernie blame Hillary for losing the primary? angstlessk Sep 2017 #37

Correct. However... NurseJackie Sep 2017 #43

If Bernie can move on from unfairly bashing democratic party YCHDT Sep 2017 #41

And apart from the Primary zentrum Sep 2017 #29

Bernie wins his elections murielm99 Sep 2017 #32

amendment king clu Sep 2017 #34

lol. n/t seaglass Sep 2017 #40

yes i re-read the link after posting clu Sep 2017 #45

We agree on one thing. zentrum Sep 2017 #35

There are the outs and there are the establishment types. Jim Lane Sep 2017 #36

+1 clu Sep 2017 #46

Ok. Eko Sep 2017 #48

I appreciate your addressing what I actually wrote. Here are my responses. Jim Lane Sep 2017 #49

HaHa Eko Sep 2017 #50

Pardon me, but would you explain your laughing? I guess I'm too dense. Jim Lane Sep 2017 #51

K&R Gothmog Sep 2017 #38

If he'd won the primary and lost to Trump he'd be saying the same thing. ucrdem Sep 2017 #39

Message auto-removed Name removed Sep 2017 #42

Sanders doesn't own a wing of the Democratic Party. He's not a Democrat, nor does he pretend to be. Lil Missy Sep 2017 #47

Great description. Thank you. NurseJackie Sep 2017 #59

Dems lost to trump because the public is dumb. The public wanted "change" and entertainment The_Casual_Observer Sep 2017 #52

This bullshit is getting tiresome and on top of that, no one is listening to you. phleshdef Sep 2017 #53

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... QC Sep 2017 #60

You literally told people to, "Flame on." theaocp Sep 2017 #61