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LiberalLovinLug

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110. Using this as an example of police brutality/abuse/harrasment whittles down the real issue IMO

Sun Sep 10, 2017, 02:14 PM

Sep 2017

Perhaps this cop did overreact to some degree. But he sees a large man, black or not, sitting in the drivers seat. Its at night. It may have been in a "bad area" of town. It looks like he was working alone, so he couldn't have a partner back him up. So he approached the vehicle with his gun drawn. But then holstered it as soon as he was close enough to see the driver was not a threat.

Other situations, the cop might keep the gun drawn and order the person out of the car because he didn't like the way he was being shouted at (or the color of his skin). And if the person struggled at all, he'd be arrested for "resisting an officer" or some such BS. I thought this officer handled the situation..as far as we can see...very professionally. Using this as your example of a 'bad cop' is counter productive to a very real problem.

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Black man righteously shames white cop who pulls him over [View all] LonePirate Sep 2017 OP

Get thee to the greatest page malaise Sep 2017 #1

Good for him! This should go viral. MineralMan Sep 2017 #2

K&R... spanone Sep 2017 #3

Hero my ass Sailor65x1 Sep 2017 #4

Okay, that's enough. Iggo Sep 2017 #5

He pulled over a black man for a missed turn signal lisby Sep 2017 #6

And clearly holstered it when he identified no threat Sailor65x1 Sep 2017 #7

So the turn signal was worth being THAT much in danger that he had to un-holster his firearm?!?!?! uponit7771 Sep 2017 #11

You're right, it's decision making Sailor65x1 Sep 2017 #14

I don't see a turn signal being worth it to place himself THAT MUCH in danger in the first place ... uponit7771 Sep 2017 #24

It's not the turn signal that is the potential danger usually rather it's the cstanleytech Sep 2017 #189

Sailor, this knee-jerk reflex to defend cops NO MATTER WHAT is part of the problem. Nitram Sep 2017 #127

Juries fail to convict bc police investigate their own people, and prosecutors prosecute their own. sharedvalues Sep 2017 #229

If he felt threatened he should have called for backup. Kingofalldems Sep 2017 #175

WTH? Some people need to stop being cop apologist idiots. No turn signal is no reason for... brush Sep 2017 #182

Always someone willing to defend out of control police actions. Scruffy1 Sep 2017 #16

+1, " In every police force I know this is against policy." I'm blessed to know some of the most ... uponit7771 Sep 2017 #29

+1 leftstreet Sep 2017 #32

That simple malaise Sep 2017 #70

This happens in Seattle also. FuzzyRabbit Sep 2017 #102

Every action is not "out of control" treestar Sep 2017 #112

Raising your voice and using profanity when threatened by a drawn gun is worse than Nitram Sep 2017 #128

Oh I can understand cussing if an officer did that to me, probably not to their face of course cstanleytech Sep 2017 #192

Yeah, I'm thinking cursing out a cop who just had a gun on me is not such a good idea. cwydro Sep 2017 #220

He mentioned the real possibility of not going home to his family ATL Ebony Sep 2017 #209

It's an issue of power. NutmegYankee Sep 2017 #260

Which is how you know he wasnt being pulled over for a turn signal violation Eliot Rosewater Sep 2017 #31

+1, RIGHT !!! uponit7771 Sep 2017 #34

I wonder what the odds are that the people who side with the cop Eliot Rosewater Sep 2017 #38

Again, unless you think the officer has super human vision, Sailor65x1 Sep 2017 #53

So he draws his gun on all citizens he pulls over no matter why he pulls them over? Eliot Rosewater Sep 2017 #94

He could have driven past streetlights where he was seen MrPurple Sep 2017 #103

I've never seen a cop pull a gun on a white man for failing to use a turn signal. Nitram Sep 2017 #129

I was pulled over at 2 a.m. near my neighborhood for a busted tail light. phylny Sep 2017 #191

Unless he ran his plates Red Mountain Sep 2017 #174

You don't really know what he saw ATL Ebony Sep 2017 #217

Police should draw guns at ALL nighttime traffic Juliusseizure Sep 2017 #248

I guess I am from the segment of America that believes police should never instill fear in others. LonePirate Sep 2017 #15

+1, omg so true .. I just posted about the woman who didn't want to touch her cell phone in her lap! uponit7771 Sep 2017 #27

I'm a white female. I have been pulled over for traffic violations at night. I have never had a cop -Steph- Sep 2017 #22

That's because the PD lights up your car, runs a check on the owner before approaching it. TheBlackAdder Sep 2017 #33

same here. I think that guy was amazingly brave. But what he said was the truth. demigoddess Sep 2017 #47

Cop should have at least apologized Juliusseizure Sep 2017 #249

the DRIVER was brave not the cop. demigoddess Sep 2017 #308

Me too but I have never been pulled over at night treestar Sep 2017 #109

What was the initial "threat" that made him draw his gun for a routine fix it ticket? procon Sep 2017 #35

Have to agree this guy was not a hero LostinRed Sep 2017 #37

The woman who wouldn't touch her cell phone in her lap wasn't a hero either then right? Because uponit7771 Sep 2017 #49

? LostinRed Sep 2017 #52

This video of a woman who wouldn't touch her cell phone in her lap because of cops shooting people.. uponit7771 Sep 2017 #54

I won't engage in whataboutism LostinRed Sep 2017 #62

Not about the officers I'm asking about the peoples reactions to them, do these people who reacted uponit7771 Sep 2017 #119

I think reacting with caution to anyone with a gun in general is a good idea cstanleytech Sep 2017 #193

Your sentiment is certainly efficient in creating a submissive population LanternWaste Sep 2017 #280

Oh? How would you approach someone with a gun even if its a cop? Pull out cstanleytech Sep 2017 #285

I have been stopped by cops... paleotn Sep 2017 #203

Roughly how many years or decades ago was the first one and has that department since then cstanleytech Sep 2017 #205

The first experience was in 1980 paleotn Sep 2017 #210

He just had a police officer point a gun at his head for no good reason. gtar100 Sep 2017 #122

Police may not be the enemy, but they are a threat and a cause for a black man to fear Nitram Sep 2017 #130

Maybe he was not professional.... usedtobedemgurl Sep 2017 #163

i agree... it was pitch dark out there samnsara Sep 2017 #39

I've been pulled over at night plenty of times because I worked odd hours. Never faced a gun. VermontKevin Sep 2017 #116

Then don't fucking pull him over for something stupid, if you're that f*cking ecstatic Sep 2017 #121

Right. So if when was the last time a cop pulled a gun on you for a similar offense? Nitram Sep 2017 #125

and guess why IAMSPARTICUS Sep 2017 #183

I'm an old white guy who has been pulled over far too many times Stinky The Clown Sep 2017 #206

rant!!! heaven05 Sep 2017 #239

In 40+ years of driving I have never once been pulled over for not using a turn signal Maraya1969 Sep 2017 #261

did he know the guy was black treestar Sep 2017 #106

Message auto-removed Name removed Sep 2017 #294

and here you are again ismnotwasm Sep 2017 #296

I'm sure it's easy to have patience when you're the one Control-Z Sep 2017 #8

He's not holding a gun Sailor65x1 Sep 2017 #12

Yup LostinRed Sep 2017 #43

doubt it is professionalism or patience Kali Sep 2017 #9

It was knowing a camera was running. nt. Mariana Sep 2017 #246

InOtherWords:"...those [not me] type of people have no reason to feel the way they do..." :rolleyes: uponit7771 Sep 2017 #10

No, my words are pretty clear; there are no "Other words" Sailor65x1 Sep 2017 #13

The misplaced benefit of the doubt is the dog that wont hunt IMHO, the man in the car reacted that.. uponit7771 Sep 2017 #30

Seriously, Sailor65x1? catbyte Sep 2017 #18

Exactly. Thank you, catbyte. SunSeeker Sep 2017 #57

As I said up (Or down?)-Thread Sailor65x1 Sep 2017 #64

My dad wasn't a cop in "Mayberry" and I don't appreciate your condescension. catbyte Sep 2017 #88

lol ... Mayberry " ... not those areas ... ", your slip is showing dude. uponit7771 Sep 2017 #255

Exactly Doreen Sep 2017 #85

Fox and RWNJ's agree with you.... stonecutter357 Sep 2017 #23

Do tell us your experiences being pulled over as a black man by cops Eliot Rosewater Sep 2017 #28

Uh-huh... MineralMan Sep 2017 #51

The cop knew he was being recorded. Mariana Sep 2017 #65

BINGO! The calm demeanor of the cop was because he knew he was being recorded. Lil Missy Sep 2017 #204

Not sure if you ever had someone pull a gun on you Perseus Sep 2017 #83

Sailor65x1, foreman of the jury. PdxSean Sep 2017 #96

Excellent post ChubbyStar Sep 2017 #104

Thank you. nt Susan Calvin Sep 2017 #126

Another attorney here Juliusseizure Sep 2017 #250

LOL! "Great patience." You've proved the driver's point ecstatic Sep 2017 #120

"Great patience on the part of the officer?" WTF! What, he should shoot the guy for being angry Nitram Sep 2017 #124

Post removed Post removed Sep 2017 #181

Wow, you missed the whole point. n/t USALiberal Sep 2017 #231

I was taught you only point a gun at something you intend to kill mulp Sep 2017 #259

What car camera was he using? Baitball Blogger Sep 2017 #17

Your Concern is noted.. Tribalceltic Sep 2017 #19

Since most of those were criminals shooting at the cops not much? EX500rider Sep 2017 #142

By mistake of course JonLP24 Sep 2017 #243

Cause the cops never shoot people who lay down on the ground with their hands in the air or shoot uponit7771 Sep 2017 #257

Didn't say they didn't... EX500rider Sep 2017 #287

The problem here is that black people are subconsciously seen as dangerous. Oneironaut Sep 2017 #20

Great rant. It does look like the cop is ashamed. Lucky Luciano Sep 2017 #21

My heroes are like my old coworker Ruth. Ruth was a short, stocky woman Hortensis Sep 2017 #25

The juxtaposition of your story and the Woolworth's sit in, doesn't really make sense to me. M0rpheus Sep 2017 #150

A cop telling a woman to "move your ass!" is LACK OF TACT? What?!!! Hortensis Sep 2017 #159

Lack of tact - yes. Practically the minimum, I expect in my police interactions. M0rpheus Sep 2017 #212

What is the cop doing with his left hand? cyclonefence Sep 2017 #26

Curious , I saw that too, i thought that was his walkie or microphone and he Eliot Rosewater Sep 2017 #36

Most likely a mic to call for backup if things go to shit. TheBlackAdder Sep 2017 #42

He has his fingers hooked in the top of his vest Sailor65x1 Sep 2017 #56

I'm a white middle aged woman and log about 100,000 miles a year Horse with no Name Sep 2017 #40

Give the cop credit left-of-center2012 Sep 2017 #41

The woman who wouldn't touch her cell phone in her lap was having a hissy too? thx in advance uponit7771 Sep 2017 #50

I'm addressing one video ... left-of-center2012 Sep 2017 #66

The cop knew he was being recorded. Mariana Sep 2017 #55

And the driver was playing to his camera ... left-of-center2012 Sep 2017 #68

So what? Mariana Sep 2017 #71

The cop remained calm and polite. left-of-center2012 Sep 2017 #76

If you just had a pointed in your face Mariana Sep 2017 #78

Some cop points a gun at me ... left-of-center2012 Sep 2017 #82

Interesting that you see this as some sort of competition. gtar100 Sep 2017 #145

attitude and behaviour of the cop left-of-center2012 Sep 2017 #143

It's oh so polite to point a gun in someone's face because they didn't use a turn signal? MrsCoffee Sep 2017 #262

Nothing seen on the video of cop pointing a gun left-of-center2012 Sep 2017 #271

You didn't see it, so it couldn't have happened. MrsCoffee Sep 2017 #275

Exactly left-of-center2012 Sep 2017 #278

I dunno, is pulling a gun on the driver for a pissant signal violation, "respectful"? procon Sep 2017 #60

The cop was merely being cautious. left-of-center2012 Sep 2017 #69

"cautious" must mean something different on your planet, yeah? nt procon Sep 2017 #73

cautious putting himself in a situation where he had to un-holster his weapon?! Bull, that's the uponit7771 Sep 2017 #117

"some fool?" pangaia Sep 2017 #118

This message was self-deleted by its author ChubbyStar Sep 2017 #165

"Once he saw it was just some fool." Wow! Nitram Sep 2017 #132

Did he think acting as he did was his best defense? left-of-center2012 Sep 2017 #147

nope.. pangaia Sep 2017 #168

LOL, and a white man would not have had a gun pulled on him. Wow, missing much? n/t USALiberal Sep 2017 #232

No where in the video ... left-of-center2012 Sep 2017 #241

There's no reason ... NOT ... to believe the driver of the car when he said he did have his gun out uponit7771 Sep 2017 #258

Well, he was having a hissy fit n/t left-of-center2012 Sep 2017 #272

As expected, still no reason ... NOT ... to believe what he said especially when the officer did not uponit7771 Sep 2017 #273

You certainly do seem to allege knowledge of the cops precise thinking process. LanternWaste Sep 2017 #282

No, the cop deserves no credit at all. Unless you think that a cop who doesn't shoot a seated Nitram Sep 2017 #131

I give the cop credit shanny Sep 2017 #240

You certainly holds cops to a low standard if you afford them credit simply for doing the least poss LanternWaste Sep 2017 #281

I give this cop a lot of credit. Ohioboy Sep 2017 #44

No, he wasn't "patient", he was petrified with that deer caught in the headlights look. nt procon Sep 2017 #63

Amen left-of-center2012 Sep 2017 #87

ONLY BECAUSE THE ASSHOLE COP WAS BEING RECORDED! REALLY SIMPLE! nt USALiberal Sep 2017 #233

The policeman knew he was being videoed; otherwise, he would have taken the opportunity to beat or Hoyt Sep 2017 #101

No doubt bluevoter4life Sep 2017 #45

I agree, it almost certainly would have gone worse Mariana Sep 2017 #58

yup, saw this video yuiyoshida Sep 2017 #46

common turn single trick to make a traffic stop, after they run plates & get nothing. They're afraid Sunlei Sep 2017 #48

Not a great example on the part of the motorist. Too over the top. bitterross Sep 2017 #59

Exactly left-of-center2012 Sep 2017 #89

I'm with you bitterross. kag Sep 2017 #90

I found the video very convincing, bitter. Nitram Sep 2017 #133

I believe the driver. I just don't see how it is convincing - unless you want to it be bitterross Sep 2017 #152

That's an awful lot of words to elaborate on what you already wrote. Nitram Sep 2017 #166

Missed turn signal? kentuck Sep 2017 #61

The driver was out of control. He was fortunate that the officer didn't arrest him IMO. Trust Buster Sep 2017 #67

Arrest him for what? Mariana Sep 2017 #74

Obstructing official business. I sure wouldn't want to stand on the road waiting for this guy to Trust Buster Sep 2017 #79

That sounds like a real stretch. Mariana Sep 2017 #86

I have my opinion, you have yours. Trust Buster Sep 2017 #91

Laws are generally written down. Mariana Sep 2017 #97

You may not have intended it that way, but that's a somewhat racist statement. Stinky The Clown Sep 2017 #207

There was nothing racist about my statement. Those that jump to hot button words instead of Trust Buster Sep 2017 #208

As I said, you didn't get it Stinky The Clown Sep 2017 #213

You added zero to the conversation other than name calling. Don't kid yourself, you did not debate. Trust Buster Sep 2017 #214

There wasnt any name calling from Stinky ChubbyStar Sep 2017 #216

Calling me racist because he disagrees with my position regarding this traffic stop Trust Buster Sep 2017 #221

Stinky said "You may not have intended it that way, but that's a somewhat racist statement" ChubbyStar Sep 2017 #225

How was he obstructing? Officer was asking NO questions or saying anything. n/t USALiberal Sep 2017 #234

I asked that poster to show us the law Mariana Sep 2017 #247

Fuck civil rights, eh? MrsCoffee Sep 2017 #263

Nonsense, the driver can file a complaint if he so chooses. The tirade of profanities was wrong. Trust Buster Sep 2017 #264

And the cop can follow the law himself or find a new fucking "business". MrsCoffee Sep 2017 #265

I have seen zero evidence that the officer broke the law. Trust Buster Sep 2017 #266

Of course you haven't. MrsCoffee Sep 2017 #267

Calm down. Two opinions can differ. Trust Buster Sep 2017 #268

I don't calm down in the fight for civil rights. MrsCoffee Sep 2017 #269

The driver can say whatever profanities he wants. NutmegYankee Sep 2017 #291

Nope, not to a police officer. Escalating a situation is also not very smart. Trust Buster Sep 2017 #292

Please cite the case law then. NutmegYankee Sep 2017 #293

I'm not a lawyer. Common sense is my guide. Trust Buster Sep 2017 #295

So you say it's illegal, but you have nothing to back it up? NutmegYankee Sep 2017 #297

You miss the entire point. The officer showed incredible restraint. The driver was escalating the Trust Buster Sep 2017 #298

The Officer has no legal basis to arrest the man for profanities. NutmegYankee Sep 2017 #299

Sure he did. Obstructing official police business would have been an easy misdemeanor. Trust Buster Sep 2017 #300

LOL! NutmegYankee Sep 2017 #302

Your main issue Trustbuster is you have an Authoritarian personality type. NutmegYankee Sep 2017 #301

Nope, verbally abusing an officer and risking an escalation is just not smart. Trust Buster Sep 2017 #303

Actually, you do. NutmegYankee Sep 2017 #305

So much for your "free speech" meme, Huh ? LOL Trust Buster Sep 2017 #306

meme? NutmegYankee Sep 2017 #307

Under what municipal code violation? procon Sep 2017 #80

#4 is the one that gets a gun pulled on you for missing a turn signal. Iggo Sep 2017 #218

I agree left-of-center2012 Sep 2017 #92

Out of control? He was very, very angry about having faced a moment where he thought he might die. Nitram Sep 2017 #134

Well, he should have been locked up for that. Mariana Sep 2017 #157

Out of control? For scolding a cop who harassed him by stopping him at night for not Nitram Sep 2017 #270

Appropriate use of Force! This stop was not about a minor turn signal! MarkEzra Sep 2017 #72

So you know the officer and his family! whistler162 Sep 2017 #84

"What was that black man thinking!?" left-of-center2012 Sep 2017 #93

Shame on you so-called left-of-center. The man feared for his life as a cop with a drawn gun Nitram Sep 2017 #135

Total douchebag. Nt B2G Sep 2017 #75

To the cop's credit Perseus Sep 2017 #77

I think everyone should record encounters with police Mariana Sep 2017 #81

After the video ... left-of-center2012 Sep 2017 #95

Funny... Perseus Sep 2017 #100

Here is a flippin idea. Doreen Sep 2017 #98

In one video clip, this driver extols BLM agenda perfectly! rogue emissary Sep 2017 #99

Unfortunately, the driver acted like an idiot, but he was right. LuckyCharms Sep 2017 #105

He was probably full of adrenaline Mariana Sep 2017 #108

I do think it would be fair to hear the cop's treestar Sep 2017 #107

Let 'im post it. Why wouldn't he, such bravery and all that. ret5hd Sep 2017 #111

a newspaper will likely report on this SethH Sep 2017 #196

Using this as an example of police brutality/abuse/harrasment whittles down the real issue IMO LiberalLovinLug Sep 2017 #110

Are you kidding me? He used racial profiling to assume guilt before being proven innocent. LonePirate Sep 2017 #113

I took it as him being unnecessarily overly cautious in a situation LiberalLovinLug Sep 2017 #115

Where do you see any evidence of racial profiling? Lee-Lee Sep 2017 #155

Assuming a white cop is a racist after he pulls a gun on a black man in a car is pretty safe bet. LonePirate Sep 2017 #162

Your making a whole lid of assumptions not backed by evidence Lee-Lee Sep 2017 #172

You're doing nothing but making excuses for reprehensible and inexcusable behavior. LonePirate Sep 2017 #177

You clearly can't think rationally about this Lee-Lee Sep 2017 #180

You're the one with all of the suppositions. Based on the known facts, racism is the likely suspect. LonePirate Sep 2017 #185

Your making up facts Lee-Lee Sep 2017 #190

Only in your reality. MrsCoffee Sep 2017 #277

What policeman pulls over a citizen for not using a turn signal? kwassa Sep 2017 #288

Right Lee-Lee ... cop admits they only shoot black people on camera but we should all give them the uponit7771 Sep 2017 #254

I'm a big (white) guy... ret5hd Sep 2017 #114

I'm curious, Liberal, what do you think made the office realize "the driver was not a threat?" Nitram Sep 2017 #137

Do you know the officer broke procedure by having his gun out? TCJ70 Sep 2017 #140

My question was an honest one too (you don't have some sort of monopoly on honesty). Nitram Sep 2017 #164

I didn't write the post you initially responded to here... TCJ70 Sep 2017 #167

The point is that the cop should not have drawn his gun soaring a minor traffic stop. Nitram Sep 2017 #170

It's fine for you to believe that... TCJ70 Sep 2017 #194

Just 3 more questions, TCJ. Would you consider the failure to signal a turn a clear and present Nitram Sep 2017 #289

Answers: TCJ70 Sep 2017 #304

We don't know what that was. LiberalLovinLug Sep 2017 #284

Then his decision making is slack, he shouldn't put himself in a situation where he needs to touch.. uponit7771 Sep 2017 #253

Any lawyer will tell you that this is exactly... mudstump Sep 2017 #123

Lawyers don't want their clients getting shot Mariana Sep 2017 #161

WOW!!! still_one Sep 2017 #136

I had a similar incident soon after coming home from 'Nam madokie Sep 2017 #138

So...guy gets pulled over and cop has a gun out walking up to the car... TCJ70 Sep 2017 #139

So you support cops terrorizing black men because that's what he did. LonePirate Sep 2017 #144

Didn't realize I was talking to a psychic... TCJ70 Sep 2017 #148

I didn't realize I was talking to someone who cannot identify obvious racial profiling. LonePirate Sep 2017 #154

There was no "obvious racial profiling" in that video Lee-Lee Sep 2017 #156

"Obvious racial profiling" TCJ70 Sep 2017 #160

He pulled a gun on a black man for a turn signal violation. LonePirate Sep 2017 #176

The simplest answer is racism... TCJ70 Sep 2017 #195

What other alternatives? Such as the one where he is incompetent at his job? LonePirate Sep 2017 #197

Maybe the driver was reaching under his seat or making suspicious movements Lee-Lee Sep 2017 #198

Oh yeah. Nobody ever tries to retrieve their paperwork after being pulled over. LonePirate Sep 2017 #202

No, that is only the most obvious explanation that a cop can come up with. MrsCoffee Sep 2017 #276

Everyone is making "furtive moves", i.e., -- reaching for their driver's licenses. R B Garr Sep 2017 #279

Really? Lee-Lee Sep 2017 #153

I agree. It is easy for keyboard heroes to not appreciate the shoes the officer was walking in. Trust Buster Sep 2017 #146

Pull video of him approaching a white driver with his gun out and I will agree. n/t USALiberal Sep 2017 #236

yeah you're right heaven05 Sep 2017 #244

FFS, show me video of him approaching EVERY car that way and I will believe your BS. nt USALiberal Sep 2017 #235

WTF !? Point being the cop shouldn't put himself in a situation where he needs to touch his firearm uponit7771 Sep 2017 #252

What people defending the officer miss Johnny2X2X Sep 2017 #141

Can't wait til I see Samuel L Jackson in the movie version LakeArenal Sep 2017 #149

Post removed Post removed Sep 2017 #151

I agree with you 100% left-of-center2012 Sep 2017 #158

Not surprised one bit by your post. Kingofalldems Sep 2017 #199

Righteously ,oh really ? Wash. state Desk Jet Sep 2017 #169

Yeah, we all should remain calm right before we are summarily executed by a police officer. LonePirate Sep 2017 #179

That's a big question LonePirate Wash. state Desk Jet Sep 2017 #184

It goes beyond training. It's the LEO's lack of social awareness as well. LonePirate Sep 2017 #187

NEWS ARTICLE and twitter reactions here trueblue2007 Sep 2017 #171

Thank you for posting this. Sadly, incidents like this are far too common in America nowadays. LonePirate Sep 2017 #178

March 2000: NY police will review their policy on when to draw gun. Nitram Sep 2017 #173

Volitile scene, could have gone wrong... GetRidOfThem Sep 2017 #186

I hope a journalist somewhere investigates this event and obtains both sides of the story. LonePirate Sep 2017 #188

If he'd been white, we'd just have called him a jerk. Susan Calvin Sep 2017 #200

If he'd've been white, the cop wouldn't have pulled a gun. (n/t) Iggo Sep 2017 #219

Yes, exactly. nt Susan Calvin Sep 2017 #222

Damn skippy! nt MrScorpio Sep 2017 #201

After reading this thread, bear in mind the fundamental point: Stinky The Clown Sep 2017 #211

Exactly! Although it's easy not to realize that given the numerous responses here supporting the LEO LonePirate Sep 2017 #215

It wouldn't have. I know that. White privilege. Susan Calvin Sep 2017 #224

Yes. Exactly. nt Susan Calvin Sep 2017 #223

+1, don't believe some are scolding the drive uponit7771 Sep 2017 #251

Watch these two videos jmowreader Sep 2017 #226

You think someone who doesn't use a turn signal is a cop troll? LonePirate Sep 2017 #227

Those are examples of the risk cops should accept when they accept the job. Stinky The Clown Sep 2017 #228

Really stupid comparisons....... USALiberal Sep 2017 #238

"He ain't about to Sandra Bland me"... HipChick Sep 2017 #230

I have a CCW. Since when you get pulled over, cops always run williesgirl Sep 2017 #237

My dad was a cop and he always told me to never say anything when pulled over nini Sep 2017 #242

Message auto-removed Name removed Sep 2017 #245

I would need more information to judge what happened in this video. Willie Pep Sep 2017 #256

I just stopped in to read the TRIGGERED responses from obvious disrupters tenderfoot Sep 2017 #274

Yeah, a lot of people so quick to call racism... TCJ70 Sep 2017 #286

Yeah, a lot of (white) people so quick to defend cops... Nitram Sep 2017 #290

He's my bro, all right! Blue_Tires Sep 2017 #283