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Hortensis

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96. Reality is, a majority of Californians vote for Feinstein, and they notably like

Sun Sep 10, 2017, 08:25 PM

Sep 2017

having one of the most experienced, effective, and powerful liberal public officials in the nation representing their state.

Insisting on a more radical progressive instead of the usual mainstream variety is almost certainly setting yourself up for a frustrating campaign with the usual disappointment at the end. A very significant portion of Hispanic Democrats are actually conservatives by nature, you know. They won't go for someone of Sanders' type, for instance.

If you really want to elect someone you can be satisfied with, I suggest you identify someone you can live with who respects the wishes of all kinds of Democrats and as many moderate conservatives as possible and earnestly intends to work for them. Democracy as it is meant to work.

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FFS can we PLEASE get some new Dem candidates for CA Senate in 2018? [View all] nbsmom Sep 2017 OP

Not if it means losing the seat over some bitter primary. MrsCoffee Sep 2017 #1

it is highly unlikely that California would not send a Democrat to the Senate. Warren DeMontague Sep 2017 #7

"Out of touch" is an understatement... time to put a real progressive in that Senate seat. InAbLuEsTaTe Sep 2017 #30

it is still astonishing how some dems are totally oblivious to how the optics surrounding Hillary Time2Evolve Sep 2017 #105

"Fighting chance"? Wuda kicked the Fuhrer-in-Chief's azz. InAbLuEsTaTe Sep 2017 #115

Perhaps you're speaking of a different Hillary Clinton mythology Sep 2017 #117

and voter turnout for this election was a record low, geez i wonder why. Time2Evolve Sep 2017 #150

Hillary didn't lose because she wasn't progressive Steven Maurer Sep 2017 #129

she wanted to keep weed illegal and calls african people "super predators", the list goes on.. Time2Evolve Sep 2017 #149

"African People"? Ask your manager for some help w idioms. emulatorloo Sep 2017 #159

Post removed Post removed Sep 2017 #165

Spell checker is your friend, as is Google. Why are you smearing Hillary? Hekate Sep 2017 #172

Bernie and environment? Read up on Bernie's bill to dump Vermont's nuclear waste on a minority town emulatorloo Sep 2017 #175

SANDERS voted for that "super-predators" law! Steven Maurer Sep 2017 #169

Oh, you're back again? NBachers Sep 2017 #176

No, she's been through lots of elections since that IWR 15 years ago, when she and the other Dems pnwmom Sep 2017 #78

Baloney, if you can elect a GOP governor and California has...then you can elect a GOP Senator... Demsrule86 Sep 2017 #143

Yeah sure, she's so out of touch we keep re-electing her. If she wants to retire, fine... Hekate Sep 2017 #173

California runs the top two candidates BainsBane Sep 2017 #23

It's all about replacing redumbliCONs, not Democrats. democratisphere Sep 2017 #2

Indeed Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Sep 2017 #15

Betting that you didn't check out the link. nbsmom Sep 2017 #18

I know what she said Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Sep 2017 #19

Nope, not a purity test. nbsmom Sep 2017 #21

Feinstein will be re-elected if she runs Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Sep 2017 #47

Please don't miss this new OP about Feinstein: Madam45for2923 Sep 2017 #70

Yikes Eliot Rosewater Sep 2017 #77

I wouldn't have missed it for the world (Spoiler: it's my post.) nbsmom Sep 2017 #88

Yep, me neither! Madam45for2923 Sep 2017 #92

One could ask that question about many sitting Dems/or Dem caucusers mcar Sep 2017 #55

good grief I did not realize how treestar Sep 2017 #60

Who doesn't hope he is successful? mahina Sep 2017 #86

Whose Adam Schaffer? Really making me wonder Justice Sep 2017 #174

The purity smear goes both ways shanny Sep 2017 #38

+1 Me. Sep 2017 #54

Yep. I guess the first time around wasn't enough for some people AgadorSparticus Sep 2017 #122

We need all the Dems we got. Am gonna work to make sure we increase in numbers! Madam45for2923 Sep 2017 #3

Here's a list jaysunb Sep 2017 #4

I must admit I have never heard of Steve Bullock. femmocrat Sep 2017 #6

Pete Buttigeig. Warren DeMontague Sep 2017 #8

Yep. He's the one. nt stevenleser Sep 2017 #17

totally unfair, i know--by jaysus h, the jokes will write themselves shanny Sep 2017 #101

In 2004, one could be forgiven for imagining that a name like "Barack Hussein Obama" Warren DeMontague Sep 2017 #107

very true. is this guy another Obama? shanny Sep 2017 #108

I'd never heard of him until he ran for DNC chair. Warren DeMontague Sep 2017 #109

" I do not believe a woman or a minority can be atop the ticket. Just my .02 worth." REALLY? Madam45for2923 Sep 2017 #10

And absolutely no awareness of the fact that if independents can't handle a minority candidate KitSileya Sep 2017 #25

they should be called out on the bigotry rather than appealed to JI7 Sep 2017 #36

I was told by another DUer that going after the unregistered voters was folly. CrispyQ Sep 2017 #65

Woahh is right... talk about turning back the clock. InAbLuEsTaTe Sep 2017 #31

Here's another list. brush Sep 2017 #26

I would prefer Mendocino Sep 2017 #111

You're right. I edited the post. I confused the two. brush Sep 2017 #114

I just hope we find someone young and exciting for president in 2020. femmocrat Sep 2017 #5

Harris shows a lot of promise but comradebillyboy Sep 2017 #63

When are you filing? MineralMan Sep 2017 #9

Ah new post on the same topic, don't miss! Madam45for2923 Sep 2017 #74

Dianne Feinstein is one of the strongest Democratic leaders in the Senate. Expecting Rain Sep 2017 #11

She has a vagina nini Sep 2017 #13

You know that isn't true. Sen. Walter Sobchak Sep 2017 #28

Gotta disagree on many levels nini Sep 2017 #29

Agree. delisen Sep 2017 #147

After seeing what happened to Hillary, no, I don't know that. n/t pnwmom Sep 2017 #75

A harsh critique of geriatric, aloof and ineffectual democrats is not likely to be gender based Sen. Walter Sobchak Sep 2017 #119

Of course it was gender based. Bernie and DT were both OLDER than she was. pnwmom Sep 2017 #121

Feinstein, the original subject at hand is 84 years old Sen. Walter Sobchak Sep 2017 #123

What bullsit. Nothing Dianne Feinstein said indicated she was senile... Expecting Rain Sep 2017 #126

People have forgotten there is such a thing as diplomacy, and not sounding like any angry blowhard pnwmom Sep 2017 #128

On the senile part awesomerwb1 Sep 2017 #154

Long pauses? That's how an introvert thinks -- of any age. Introverts tend to think about pnwmom Sep 2017 #167

I'm sure you're right about awesomerwb1 Sep 2017 #168

No reasonable person who understood dementia and who watched the video where she made the statement, pnwmom Sep 2017 #127

I seriously doubt Donald Trump would find that statement diplomatic Sen. Walter Sobchak Sep 2017 #130

He would find it MUCH more diplomatic than the sorts of things most DUers pnwmom Sep 2017 #131

Trump was out to embarrass Ryan and McConnell, not "make a deal" with us. Sen. Walter Sobchak Sep 2017 #132

I didn't ask if she shines. I asked if you see evidence of senility in that video. pnwmom Sep 2017 #135

If so little of what Trump has said and done in the last decade has sunk in with her... Sen. Walter Sobchak Sep 2017 #164

Yeah, right. I'm going with "not a blowhard" and "diplomatic." nt pnwmom Sep 2017 #166

talk about identity politics clu Sep 2017 #136

Ok nini Sep 2017 #148

That was certainly one of Hillary's big problems. comradebillyboy Sep 2017 #64

Do Nina Turner & Liz Warren have vaginas? Nevernose Sep 2017 #133

Nina Turner shouldn't be mentioned in the same thread as OnDoutside Sep 2017 #137

She is more than willing to elect Republicans and has said so...she is bitter and angry...hates Demsrule86 Sep 2017 #144

Yup. +1 OnDoutside Sep 2017 #145

She's also the oldest senator crazycatlady Sep 2017 #41

The life expectancy for men in this country is 76.4 years. Expecting Rain Sep 2017 #43

MY state elected an 84 yo senator crazycatlady Sep 2017 #45

I take it you'd oppose re-electing a male Senator a full year beyond the life expectancy of 76.4 Expecting Rain Sep 2017 #46

Look I get this forum skews older crazycatlady Sep 2017 #48

Not the average, but life treestar Sep 2017 #61

Good point! Expecting Rain Sep 2017 #62

Possibly nini Sep 2017 #68

She is powerful. And there seems to be a disconcerted effort to get rid of her. AgadorSparticus Sep 2017 #124

TAMMY DUCKWORTH FOR PRESIDENT! Squinch Sep 2017 #12

What does her running again have to do with 'new' candidates? nini Sep 2017 #14

You have it exactly right... and we can do better than DiFi. InAbLuEsTaTe Sep 2017 #32

Hmmmm you can do better than Dianne Feinstein. What a beautiful comment. There's something about it Madam45for2923 Sep 2017 #37

Hmmmm... what is it you don't get? InAbLuEsTaTe Sep 2017 #42

Diannne Feinstein is a giant in the Senate with seniority positions and... Expecting Rain Sep 2017 #44

lol, you're the one who said the way to address dissatisfaction w/ DiFi is through a primary. InAbLuEsTaTe Sep 2017 #49

Sadly, that really isn't how it works in the California Democratic party. nbsmom Sep 2017 #102

FFS - keep up with the news - This has been done to death the last 4 or 5 days. SharonClark Sep 2017 #16

Stop it. NurseJackie Sep 2017 #20

Do you live in California? BainsBane Sep 2017 #22

Tell us what you're doing to get another candidate? brooklynite Sep 2017 #24

Democrats hold no principle more sacred than our own arbitrary internal hierarchies. Sen. Walter Sobchak Sep 2017 #27

the supreme court clu Sep 2017 #33

Right now we are stuck with the Republicans because of this sort of thinking...Just once, Demsrule86 Sep 2017 #40

fuck putin......and trump... stonecutter357 Sep 2017 #34

Who do you support ? and are you from California ? JI7 Sep 2017 #35

Absolutely not...no primaries in 18 for sitting Senators. Dianne is old school... Demsrule86 Sep 2017 #39

I don't mind long-serving politicians. Willie Pep Sep 2017 #50

What's wrong with Dianne? (Are you in California?) NurseJackie Sep 2017 #51

Actually, what we need is more Republicans primaried by moderates and blue dogs. L. Coyote Sep 2017 #52

I am from California, and DEMOCRATIC Californians will do just fine selecting their candidates. still_one Sep 2017 #53

Primaries do that for us LanternWaste Sep 2017 #56

Find some and support them treestar Sep 2017 #57

California US Senate seat aside, we are actually doing well in that front Tiggeroshii Sep 2017 #58

Are you a voter from California? treestar Sep 2017 #59

Yes, I've been a registered Democrat in California my whole life. nbsmom Sep 2017 #90

Members of Congress on both sides of the aisle bathroommonkey76 Sep 2017 #66

At this point a leadership handover would be almost two generations... Baconator Sep 2017 #67

nbsmom hello! California resident or nah? Madam45for2923 Sep 2017 #69

This California resident begs you not to call our state "Cali." Expecting Rain Sep 2017 #71

Aha! Madam45for2923 Sep 2017 #72

I edited! Madam45for2923 Sep 2017 #73

Bless you! Expecting Rain Sep 2017 #104

Yes, California native Proud to have raised two wise young CA voter, too. N/T nbsmom Sep 2017 #87

Ok. Are you a California resident now? Madam45for2923 Sep 2017 #91

Candidates pick themselves. You don't get to delisen Sep 2017 #134

If you're not in her district, bug off. They're the only ones qualified pnwmom Sep 2017 #76

So no comments are to be made on any politician not from my own district? nm MichMan Sep 2017 #84

People from her state are much more likely to be familiar with her actual record. pnwmom Sep 2017 #85

CA native here. nbsmom Sep 2017 #89

You keep saying native. Guess not a resident now? Madam45for2923 Sep 2017 #93

No, I still live here, and have raised two members of California'next generation of voters, too. nbsmom Sep 2017 #95

Well others asked before and seems you took long in answering! ??? Glad you answered in my case. Madam45for2923 Sep 2017 #97

Ironically enough, it's one of the reasons it took a while for me to reply nbsmom Sep 2017 #98

OK. Your OP did not need the FFS, for many of us that is disrespectful to our DEM figures Madam45for2923 Sep 2017 #99

As long as there are federal contracts she can shunt to her husband's busineses, TonyPDX Sep 2017 #79

Why are you pushing that right wing meme? pnwmom Sep 2017 #81

Seriously? nbsmom Sep 2017 #94

Just digging deeper, I see. pnwmom Sep 2017 #100

From SF Gate nbsmom Sep 2017 #118

Yeah, "critics." Like those rightwing critics I was referring to. As Bruce Cain at UC Berkeley said, pnwmom Sep 2017 #120

I make it a point not to read threads in all caps SCantiGOP Sep 2017 #80

Guess that's not working out so well for ya because you just did. Purveyor Sep 2017 #82

???? Madam45for2923 Sep 2017 #83

Reality is, a majority of Californians vote for Feinstein, and they notably like Hortensis Sep 2017 #96

Not insisting on a more radical progressive. nbsmom Sep 2017 #110

I'd love any indication that people anywhere were ready to move left, nbsmom, Hortensis Sep 2017 #141

Do you live in California? Iggo Sep 2017 #103

HELL NO!!! We KEEP the winners! Lil Missy Sep 2017 #106

Who you got better? Iggo Sep 2017 #112

I don't get it. Lee Adama Sep 2017 #113

What's not to get? nbsmom Sep 2017 #116

That seems ageist to me. Lee Adama Sep 2017 #140

It ain't ageist if she makes the decision Brother Buzz Sep 2017 #157

Apparently the decision has been made and she is running. Lee Adama Sep 2017 #158

The decision has NOT been made Brother Buzz Sep 2017 #160

Tuning up the re-election machine IS pressing the button. Lee Adama Sep 2017 #161

Odd, the California Democratic Party hasn't received the memo yet Brother Buzz Sep 2017 #163

There will be 30-50 candidates Retrograde Sep 2017 #125

I always thought Xavier Bercerra was positioning himself for OnDoutside Sep 2017 #138

Becerra is sharp. The "Hillary VP pick" conversation saw his name pop up oasis Sep 2017 #146

Yes I thought he stood out more than the Castro brothers OnDoutside Sep 2017 #151

Unlike the Castro Bros. and Tim Caine, Becerra speaks perfect Spanish. oasis Sep 2017 #152

One of those "might have beens" NewJeffCT Sep 2017 #153

IMO, Becerra had slightly more pizazz than the senator from Virginia. oasis Sep 2017 #155

He is well able for both. IMO he needs to gain a prominence in CA that he currently lacks... Expecting Rain Sep 2017 #162

There are good ones, even if you fail to see them. arthritisR_US Sep 2017 #139

No we can't. We need to spend money on unseating Republicans not going after safe seats and making Demsrule86 Sep 2017 #142

All people over 60 must turn in their slots delisen Sep 2017 #156

I don't tell my slots what to do. They'll turn themselves in, or not, when they're damn well ready! Iggo Sep 2017 #170

You mean someone who's never run before? Hekate Sep 2017 #171