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In reply to the discussion: So...what exactly counts as "bashing the party" or "attacking Democrats" these days? [View all]Ken Burch
(50,254 posts)When I asked why you didn't just put me on ignore rather than following me from thread to thread you made the comment about correcting "false" things. It was obvioud you were accusing me of saying false things. If you disagree with me, fine, but you have no reason to accuse me of lying or to impugn my character.
And I've never defended Stein voters-not ONCE. I've simply said it was pointless to keep attacking them since doing that can't change anything.
They were wrong to vote Stein and I spent a lot of time trying to persuade them not to.
As to JPR, it's been implied on several occasions that I'm somehow in with them. I've got nothing in common with what I've heard secondhand that they say or do and I totally reject their tactics. Isn't that enough?
You used the term "new voters". That has to mean, in part, people who didn't vote last time. It can't only mean people who weren't eligible to vote last time. I don't defend people who didn't vote Hillary. It's just that I don't believe we can convert them by lashing out at them for how 2016 turned out. Isn't what matters getting more people to vote for us?
And I've never said we should change everything in the party. Our shared commitment to fighting racism, sexism, anti-LGBTQ prejudice, and to defending choice should be retained and strengthened, as should our environmental policies. I've simply said we should add some things to that, none of which would detract from anything we stand for now/
And I proved I wasn't intentionally comparing the party to East German Stalinists-I admitted I made an insensitive, stupid mistake. I agreed I shouldn't have posted anything that even looked like that comparison was being made. I admitted it was wrong from the start...We all make mistakes.
I wasn't "boasting" in any thing I said-I was denying false accusations.
BTW, I didn't claim I'd never said anything IN THE PAST that was over the line. But I've stopped that and changed how I communicate.
I don't have to repudiate every idea I supported in 2016 to prove that.
And it's absurd to act like I somehow persecuted Hillary or silenced her supporters in observing that I couldn't thought it was illadivised for her to put that one part in...but that's just me expressing an opinion. My saying that wasn't going to actually affect anything and I was simply commenting on something that had already happened.