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In reply to the discussion: So...what exactly counts as "bashing the party" or "attacking Democrats" these days? [View all]NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)110. Actually, yes you have.
When I have had posts hidden, it's generally been because I was falsely accused of refighting the primaries.
Take it to the admins.
If you don't support those things that's your right
Oh, thank you! How very generous!
I want to remake the Democratic Party in the image of the human race.
Lovely. That's a very tall order. If you're sincere and not just blowing smoke up my ass, I strongly suggest that you adjust your attitude and kindly remove that chip from your shoulder. Seriously. No slam. No shade.
Generally speaking, nobody likes a know-it-all with pie-in-the-sky demands that sound good "on paper" but have no chance of flying in the real world and which have already been rejected by voters. I'm just sayin'. Again... I'm not the only one who's noticed and I'm not the only one to give you this type of feedback. So it's not "just me".
Seriously. Think about it and you'll see that I'm right.
but it does no harm simply to advocate for them and it's not you place to try to badger me into not advocating for them.
So, you're saying that you should just be able to say whatever you want and NEVER have to answer to anyone about anything. Nobody should hold you accountable for being truthful? Nobody should challenge you for being unrealistic? Nobody should ever say anything in opposition to offensive statements (ie: Kamala Harris or comparing the Democratic Party to East German Stalinists). You're actually arguing that you should have FREE REIGN to say whatever you want and whenever you want?
Is that about right? What nerve! Must be nice to feel so entitled. (See what I mean? This is yet another example of how it comes across to others when you speak (or type) before you think (or without proofreading). You're doing yourself no favors.
All I'm trying to say is that you expect far too much and I think it's time for you to adjust your expectations to something that's a bit more realistic. Time to stop feeling "stalked" or "victimized". Time to stop "defending" yourself against accusations that were never made. (People can see right through that game and it diminishes the value of anything else you may have to offer.)
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So...what exactly counts as "bashing the party" or "attacking Democrats" these days? [View all]
Ken Burch
Sep 2017
OP
Let's call those who want radical changes radicals. We all want to improve everything politically,
Hortensis
Sep 2017
#34
The problem is that NO Republicans want to create a truly representative government.
Ken Burch
Sep 2017
#55
NO. The problem of this discussion is those on the farther left who feel that way.
Hortensis
Sep 2017
#59
You haven't been here long, but I already expected you to twist and disagree.
Hortensis
Sep 2017
#68
There is a very real disconnect in your presentation and the real world. There is no common ground
JCanete
Sep 2017
#54
I don't have a website and I didn't block you. I truly want to hear what you have to say on this.
Ken Burch
Sep 2017
#11
The message of the primary is not a rejection of all of the ideas of Bernie's campaign
Ken Burch
Sep 2017
#86
Keith isn't saying that those ideas must be given up on. He didn't repudiate them himself.
Ken Burch
Sep 2017
#92
The fact that you believe that doesn't obligate me to stop posting in support of those ideas.
Ken Burch
Sep 2017
#96
I make no false claims/distortions. I don't lie. And I'm not in any "Stein faction".
Ken Burch
Sep 2017
#100
Stop splitting hairs and playing word games. You're not helping your cause at all....
NurseJackie
Sep 2017
#105
Actually no. In the last few days, virtually any critique of anything the party does
Ken Burch
Sep 2017
#24
And when I sent you that private message, I simply hadn't seen the sign that you didn't respond
Ken Burch
Sep 2017
#33
More accurately, you haven't admitted that you've posted things bashing the party
mythology
Sep 2017
#46
I only did that because I didn't want to break my commitment not to respond in the thread.
Ken Burch
Sep 2017
#61
I didn't block you, nor do I have a website. I'll look and see what happened.
Ken Burch
Sep 2017
#12
I'm saying that people should respond on the merits of ideas-of ANYONE's ideas.
Ken Burch
Sep 2017
#111
I've done a number of posts saying he neede to take a stronger antiracist stand in public
Ken Burch
Sep 2017
#45
I do attack the right. It's just that 2016 proved that we can't win by attacking the Right.
Ken Burch
Sep 2017
#29
I'll expand on it, then. I base my analysis on the fact that, in the 2016 campaign,
Ken Burch
Sep 2017
#47
I wholly agree with you that there is no economic justice without civil rights
Ken Burch
Sep 2017
#129
I think the line should be drawn between constructive criticism and scorched-earth criticism.
Willie Pep
Sep 2017
#66
Since when is a particular independent the only person who is qualified to speak on progressive
pnwmom
Sep 2017
#94
I never argued that Bernie was the only person who could speak on progressive principles.
Ken Burch
Sep 2017
#97
I'm not concerned about Bernie as much as I am about winning over his supporters.
Ken Burch
Sep 2017
#114
The problem is that Bernie himself is making it harder to connect with his supporters,
pnwmom
Sep 2017
#115
There were threads here with titles like "the voters will never elect a socialist Jew".
Ken Burch
Sep 2017
#113
An attack would be like when the (far) left wing of the party went after Kamala Harris.
LonePirate
Sep 2017
#101
bold faced lies about the DNC is not "open discussion" and neither are half truth when it comes
uponit7771
Sep 2017
#116
How about posting an out of context comment and insinuating the worst betrayal?
Hekate
Sep 2017
#127