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PoindexterOglethorpe

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15. It's probably not where they live.
Mon Sep 11, 2017, 03:26 AM
Sep 2017

It's that they watch Fox news or listen to right wing talk radio.

Keep in mind that critical thinking is NEVER taught in high school, and most people don't get any education past h.s. Also, history and science are often very badly taught. It's not uncommon for the science or history teacher to be called "coach". And with all sincere due respect to the coaches of sports, if you haven't majored in history or science, you probably shouldn't be teaching the subject.

And add to that, most people never read another book after high school. So they're not at all connected to any sort of critical thinking, or even any additional information about anything at all. The vast majority of people watch TV, get all of their information from that source. They've never learned to think critically about anything at all (on a related note, think why most people hate buying cars: they haven't a clue how to assess what's important in the arena of car buying) and so happily absorb whatever "facts" fit their world view. They NEVER revisit any of their previously held notions of anything. They rest happily secure in the idea that their world view is set in stone. Okay, so maybe they drift a bit, but rarely in a liberal or progressive direction. They think that whatever was good for them is just fine for the younger generation. And so they don't approve of computers in school, or any other aspect of education that's not exactly what they had some twenty or thirty years earlier. As if the world hasn't changed at all in that time.

A side comment. I've noticed that parents who are doctors assume that their children can realistically assess at age 17 or 18 what they want to do for the next fifty years, because they themselves had decided they wanted to become doctors by that age, and so shouldn't everyone know their future at that point? In reality, most 18 year olds (God bless them) are still quite unformed, and will need several more years to have any sort of clue as to what they want to do for the next few years, let alone the next forty. I'm referring to those young people who go to college right out of high school. Those who choose a different path (work, military, whatever) have a somewhat different set of contingencies, but the essential truth is that 18 year olds really don't know and cannot begin to asses what they want to do for the rest of their lives .

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They discovered Pox News, apparently. Warpy Sep 2017 #1
Are they what you would call, "firearms enthusiasts"? Warren DeMontague Sep 2017 #2
My dad seems to be JonLP24 Sep 2017 #3
I bet that's part of it. Warren DeMontague Sep 2017 #4
Thinking abstractly and globally defacto7 Sep 2017 #5
Sorry bout that, Benedict Donald is and the CeC are poison uponit7771 Sep 2017 #6
Lot of white racists in the west, especially idaho Steven Maurer Sep 2017 #7
I think you may be right JonLP24 Sep 2017 #8
Just don't directly confront them on that Steven Maurer Sep 2017 #11
I haven't logged into Facebook in well over a year JonLP24 Sep 2017 #12
I disagree. I have confronted some of my family and best friends over their being fooled and brain haveahart Sep 2017 #44
Being a Hispanic doesn't make any difference unless they live in an Jim Beard Sep 2017 #47
I was saying I don 't know about my Aunt's political views and mentioned she married a Hispanic JonLP24 Sep 2017 #49
some folks just hated hilary and the book will not help that dembotoz Sep 2017 #65
Idaho is NOTHING like Colorado Drahthaardogs Sep 2017 #17
Right wing radio is to blame, IMO. Many people (especially men) drive many hours per day No Vested Interest Sep 2017 #9
I think you make excellent points JonLP24 Sep 2017 #10
For the last two years my adult son's job requires him to be in and out of a large truck No Vested Interest Sep 2017 #52
I've seen the same driving phenomena of Reich wing radio brainwashing kimbutgar Sep 2017 #31
Can I borrow your crowbar? Jim Beard Sep 2017 #48
Right wing radio is a perpetual shit machine. Initech Sep 2017 #51
All the social media, Facebook, Twitter, and other platforms, have been invaded by pnwmom Sep 2017 #13
I've seen on Pinterest much of what I hear others saying they see on FB & Twitter. Lyricalinklines Sep 2017 #16
Fox and reich wing talk radio Hulk Sep 2017 #14
Yup. Why don't Dem leaders know this? sharedvalues Sep 2017 #22
The DNC is like a slow moving mountain of mud.. Hulk Sep 2017 #24
What a load of divisive crap that has nothing to do with RW radio.... some bettyellen Sep 2017 #37
The DNC is the tractor, it must find a driver to work. Jim Beard Sep 2017 #50
+1000 LiberalLovinLug Sep 2017 #81
It's probably not where they live. PoindexterOglethorpe Sep 2017 #15
I disagree. Drahthaardogs Sep 2017 #18
For what it's worth, I lived for 18 years in Kansas PoindexterOglethorpe Sep 2017 #23
All we run on are social issues Drahthaardogs Sep 2017 #26
Lead in the water? Ohiya Sep 2017 #19
Russian ads Not Ruth Sep 2017 #20
With all respect to some DUers who live there, Greeley is a hotbed of that shit---remember they hlthe2b Sep 2017 #21
This is the area I'm talking about JonLP24 Sep 2017 #25
Add Longmont to that list eleny Sep 2017 #54
With all due respect we lost Las Animas county Drahthaardogs Sep 2017 #27
the Question was about NORTHERN COLORADO hlthe2b Sep 2017 #28
I am pointing out that there is something seriously wrong Drahthaardogs Sep 2017 #32
then start another thread... Derailing threads is not cool. Clinton decisively won Colorado, BTW hlthe2b Sep 2017 #33
I'll post what I like, Drahthaardogs Sep 2017 #35
Your post is irrelevent in more ways than one. hlthe2b Sep 2017 #36
Your opinion. Drahthaardogs Sep 2017 #40
Socially conscious Elite is RW BULLSHIT. But feel free to rail on against identity politics as if bettyellen Sep 2017 #38
Uh huh. That's why we lose. Drahthaardogs Sep 2017 #39
Howard Dean actually did lose the primaries, LOL. Do you even know why Dems got screwed in the bettyellen Sep 2017 #45
This definitely explains my dad JonLP24 Sep 2017 #46
Howard Dean ran a fifty state strategy and won Drahthaardogs Sep 2017 #53
The racists left the Dem party a while back- and they went for Trump. We're not pandering to racist bettyellen Sep 2017 #55
Oh bullshit Drahthaardogs Sep 2017 #56
She campaigned in states where down ticket candidates and governors needed help. bettyellen Sep 2017 #57
Why do you keep perpetuating this nonsense? Drahthaardogs Sep 2017 #58
Polls said she got the voters who were concerned about the economy. Study up because it's not worth bettyellen Sep 2017 #60
Polls also said she would win by 300 EV Drahthaardogs Sep 2017 #61
The Comey letter hit her hard, we both know it was the final blow. bettyellen Sep 2017 #62
OFFs... believe whatever you want. Drahthaardogs Sep 2017 #63
You're making up a lot of shit no one said. And ignoring the polls that came out after... bettyellen Sep 2017 #64
She fucking said as much in an interview on NPR today Drahthaardogs Sep 2017 #66
I doubt that- you have quotes? She has said she was aware she didn't connect quite a few times bettyellen Sep 2017 #67
She said Drahthaardogs Sep 2017 #68
None of that matches your claims in this post: bettyellen Sep 2017 #69
Whatever... Drahthaardogs Sep 2017 #70
You make no sense- and stretch the truth to defend racist sexist assholes who voted for DT -and bettyellen Sep 2017 #71
Our nominee lost to the worst candidate on history Drahthaardogs Sep 2017 #83
She lost by a sliver to a TVstar given billions or dollars of free air time. bettyellen Sep 2017 #85
Only my dad I can say for certain JonLP24 Sep 2017 #72
The weird thing is- people think "being a racist" means using slurs and approving on beat downs of bettyellen Sep 2017 #73
I agree 100% JonLP24 Sep 2017 #74
So like sexism, there are lots of people who've internalized shitty attitudes and don't realize it.. bettyellen Sep 2017 #75
I agree that is also a big part of it JonLP24 Sep 2017 #76
Yeah, he was bragging about literally having a habit of assaulting women. bettyellen Sep 2017 #82
All I would say to them is... mdbl Sep 2017 #29
They're scared to death of anyone not white like them... hunter Sep 2017 #30
Same thing happened to my mom's side of the famiy. They were strong Dems, pro-union, etc. Coventina Sep 2017 #34
Side effect of legalizing pot of course! whistler162 Sep 2017 #41
i dunno... seems to relax all my relatives....that and tequila! samnsara Sep 2017 #78
It's never affected us JonLP24 Sep 2017 #80
It may be difficult, but tell them they have been unknowingly smitten by Russian bots and haveahart Sep 2017 #42
I would if I could actually get into my Facebook account JonLP24 Sep 2017 #43
Douglas Adams was right: human intelligence is so primitive, it's considered an infectious disease Aristus Sep 2017 #59
so i guess your relatives support sexual predators? thats how.... samnsara Sep 2017 #77
Another thing to keep in mind if there is a next time JonLP24 Sep 2017 #79
Inbreeding madamesilverspurs Sep 2017 #84
My uncle was a moderate independent until he retired. Willie Pep Sep 2017 #86
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