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theaocp

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9. You have got to be kidding me.

Mon Sep 11, 2017, 10:44 AM

Sep 2017

This is the disappointing view of Senator Claire McCaskill of Missouri:

This constitutes "bashing"? Fuck it, then. Just let them do whatever they want with no criticism. Jeez.

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Senator Claire McCaskill: "if a single-payer came up to a vote right now I would not vote for it" [View all] Pugster Sep 2017 OP

Uh oh Claire. MontanaMama Sep 2017 #1

You can get a pro-single payer progressive elected in Missouri? brooklynite Sep 2017 #11

Hell yeah we could. WinstonSmith00 Sep 2017 #13

Even blue state colorado rejected it by huge numbers JI7 Sep 2017 #31

...and Vermont gave up. brooklynite Sep 2017 #38

Brooklynite and McCaskill are right. You guys are missing the time factor. Hortensis Sep 2017 #96

Exactly! peggysue2 Sep 2017 #109

i replied in another thread clu Sep 2017 #106

I agree with McCaskill. kstewart33 Sep 2017 #110

Time to stop saying "Oh no we can't." Maybe we can and maybe we can't, but KPN Sep 2017 #68

How about observing that, absent single-payer, we CAN elect a Democrat in Missouri? brooklynite Sep 2017 #105

Hmmmmm, isn't buying into Medicarecaid single payer? So its single payer for PEC ... that doesn't uponit7771 Sep 2017 #2

It sounds like she is endorsing a sort of "public option" (like that originally part of Obamacare). PoliticAverse Sep 2017 #5

Right, ... hmmmmm on the face of it letting PeC pay into medicarecade makes sense uponit7771 Sep 2017 #10

Folks may want to read about area51 Sep 2017 #100

Well, you disappointed me. Get a grip, Claire. hatrack Sep 2017 #3

Of course not. Thats the problem with the Party Thrill Sep 2017 #4

Exactly. The right can be on the same page talking point the next day. sarcasmo Sep 2017 #6

Well the right are mindless drones. WinstonSmith00 Sep 2017 #19

I'm for single payer/UHC Proud Liberal Dem Sep 2017 #16

There is no detailed plan for it JI7 Sep 2017 #24

Avoidance of commercial branding specifically for the lowest common denominator is not a problem... LanternWaste Sep 2017 #101

Truth hurts Thrill Sep 2017 #103

BS.No Our Revolution litmus test! melanctha Sep 2017 #140

Scared to stand up for core values, confused about Voltaire2 Sep 2017 #148

It's your messaging that is the problem. Stop dogging democrats!!! melanctha Sep 2017 #165

I'm not imposing anything. Voltaire2 Sep 2017 #166

Mods - please lock. Bashing a Democratic politician. Thanks n/t Fix The Stupid Sep 2017 #7

How is it 'bashing?' Just repeating her statements n/t leftstreet Sep 2017 #8

You have got to be kidding me. theaocp Sep 2017 #9

Hey Fix... Dyedinthewoolliberal Sep 2017 #14

Its not bashing WinstonSmith00 Sep 2017 #15

Quoting her actual words is bashing a Democratic politician? Autumn Sep 2017 #26

Please remember that you said this. NurseJackie Sep 2017 #145

I added it to my journal just in case. Thanks for the tip. Autumn Sep 2017 #156

You're welcome! NurseJackie Sep 2017 #159

If you wish to invoke the Jury system, press the Alert Abuse button at the bottom of the post Hekate Sep 2017 #84

Apt user name pintobean Sep 2017 #160

I really think public option is the way to go. DemocratSinceBirth Sep 2017 #12

Yep and when everybody WinstonSmith00 Sep 2017 #17

Exactly DemocratSinceBirth Sep 2017 #27

It's akin to private vs. public colleges Yavin4 Sep 2017 #70

Right and she's saying PO for people with pre existing conditions, sounds like a win win uponit7771 Sep 2017 #56

They Are HER WORDS.... LovingA2andMI Sep 2017 #18

And that takes no more time than responding in the correct place. LanternWaste Sep 2017 #102

Lol. pintobean Sep 2017 #161

Well there has to be a better plan in place than just the term "single payer"... cbdo2007 Sep 2017 #20

The problem with this quote... TCJ70 Sep 2017 #21

She is from a right wing state. Even voters in colorado rejected it JI7 Sep 2017 #22

How do you get them to support something unless you get out there and convince them? Autumn Sep 2017 #28

That's what i said people need to do JI7 Sep 2017 #30

I think she could help to convince them. She should know why it's a good idea. What happened in CO Autumn Sep 2017 #34

Luckily, people can see through this deception. Why hasn't Bernie convinced Vermont?? R B Garr Sep 2017 #41

You should start a thread about that, someone will rush over and reply. If discussing a Autumn Sep 2017 #44

How ironic! You refuse to discuss why Bernie hasn't convinced Vermont to pay R B Garr Sep 2017 #46

Start an OP about it , whoever is interested will jump in and discuss it. Autumn Sep 2017 #48

Yes, like they are jumping in here to discuss why good elected Democrats are R B Garr Sep 2017 #49

Right. Talking about what she said is targeting her. Autumn Sep 2017 #50

You said she should help convince them. Why not target Bernie with the same smear. R B Garr Sep 2017 #52

I will, as soon as Bernie comes out and says he won't vote for single payer. Autumn Sep 2017 #55

You started out saying she should convince them. Now you change your story R B Garr Sep 2017 #77

We have had dozens of OPs about this in the last several months. stevenleser Sep 2017 #63

Get back to me when Bernie says if single payer come up at this time I won't vote for it. Autumn Sep 2017 #65

I don't even get where this supposed gotcha stems from? Hassin Bin Sober Sep 2017 #75

I know, any comment on an elected Democrats actual words is just like a trigger for some people. Autumn Sep 2017 #85

Luckily, people see through this deception and double standards. R B Garr Sep 2017 #90

You said she should convince people about single payer, yet Bernie hasn't R B Garr Sep 2017 #80

You can't say he and John Conyers havn't tried. I give both mad props for their tireless efforts on Autumn Sep 2017 #89

I give mad props to CA Assemblyman Rendon, who is the subject of a bogus "recall" R B Garr Sep 2017 #91

We lost 2 fine Democrats here in CO because they voted for gun control, that sucked but Autumn Sep 2017 #98

Wrong, the "many people" you claim are really Bernie fans outside Rendon's district. R B Garr Sep 2017 #99

Say what? Autumn Sep 2017 #119

Yeah, Say What is right! Trying to remove a Democrat over some pet issues R B Garr Sep 2017 #122

I don't live in CA, I have no say on what they do with their Reps or their pet issues . That's what. Autumn Sep 2017 #124

Then that's a good reason not to attack Senator McCaskill for representing her state. R B Garr Sep 2017 #126

Link to where I attacked Senator McCaskill. I'll wait right here for that link. Autumn Sep 2017 #128

Your cynicism about her not explaining single payer was obvious, although R B Garr Sep 2017 #131

Link to where I attacked Senator McCaskill like you said I did. I'll wait right here for that link. Autumn Sep 2017 #132

LOL, yes, I'm sure your comments about Senator McCaskill were because you fully R B Garr Sep 2017 #133

Link to where I attacked Senator McCaskill. I'll wait right here for that link. Autumn Sep 2017 #134

You said she should "convince people" to support single payer. R B Garr Sep 2017 #137

Link to where I attacked Senator McCaskill. A link should be easy to find. Autumn Sep 2017 #139

I guess you think this is clever or supports your claim that you were just R B Garr Sep 2017 #141

So there is no link to an attack by me on Senator McCaskill is what you are admitting. Autumn Sep 2017 #144

Explain how your comment that she should "convince people" was not R B Garr Sep 2017 #146

Last time. There is no link to my criticizing her because I didn't criticize her as you claimed. Autumn Sep 2017 #151

LOL, it's like it doesn't matter her actual position, R B Garr Sep 2017 #152

It's not just Bernie's position. It's also the position of Senators Booker,Gillibrand. Harris, Autumn Sep 2017 #164

LOL, like there is no history to it that people are R B Garr Sep 2017 #169

This thing you do KTM Sep 2017 #147

LOL, that is hilarious, as I have not seen any comments from you about the threads R B Garr Sep 2017 #149

This message was self-deleted by its author Autumn Sep 2017 #158

Well one way to help is have your kid stroll out of her $10 million dollar condo and... Hassin Bin Sober Sep 2017 #92

The needs of the people will not be met until the people bend the politicians to their will. Autumn Sep 2017 #97

How does that work? moda253 Sep 2017 #108

Huh? Autumn Sep 2017 #121

Wow. That's hypocritical moda253 Sep 2017 #107

What's that now? Autumn Sep 2017 #120

Not in missouri where the republicans voted against funds for harvey JI7 Sep 2017 #76

This is what they did with the push in CO Autumn Sep 2017 #39

Why hasn't Bernie convinced them to pay for it in Vermont? R B Garr Sep 2017 #43

Bernie should take this advice and convince Vermont to support it, costs R B Garr Sep 2017 #32

Not even worthy of a reply. Autumn Sep 2017 #35

Of course not. R B Garr Sep 2017 #36

Sure, it is worthy of a reply. Expecting Rain Sep 2017 #37

I posted about it , look for it in the thread or research what happened here in CO . Bye. Autumn Sep 2017 #40

Why hasn't Bernie convinced Vermont to pay for it?? R B Garr Sep 2017 #45

So that you discussed it proves the lie that such a question in't worth a reply is a lie. Expecting Rain Sep 2017 #51

You want to discuss Bernie, Vermont and single payer start an OP about it. Autumn Sep 2017 #53

Thanks for admitting that single payer is just a "pet subject". That's the point, it's R B Garr Sep 2017 #54

You haven't discussed Claire and single payer so I can only assume that your pet subject is Autumn Sep 2017 #59

Not convincing. This just looks like a diversion from a pet subject featured in R B Garr Sep 2017 #66

Wow, how awful. I had no idea. You should start an OP about that. Autumn Sep 2017 #69

Not convincing. This is an OP about a good elected Democrat being targeted R B Garr Sep 2017 #72

You criticized her for not going out an convincing the public that single payer... Expecting Rain Sep 2017 #67

And she announced support for a public option for those with only one option under the ACA. Expecting Rain Sep 2017 #57

Where did I attack Claire? Link please. Autumn Sep 2017 #62

........... disillusioned73 Sep 2017 #73

alert mod ban clu Sep 2017 #86

She supports a public option... Expecting Rain Sep 2017 #23

It's truly absurd. It's obviously being used as a phony litmus test and R B Garr Sep 2017 #33

+1 uponit7771 Sep 2017 #58

She shuts the door on any single-payer, without asking for details? Orsino Sep 2017 #74

We keep waiting for the details. Expecting Rain Sep 2017 #79

But if something like single payer came up for a fucking vote why would you be this certain ahead of JCanete Sep 2017 #94

So if the only 2 choices are Trumpcare or Subgle Payer? Not Ruth Sep 2017 #25

Sounds like single payer for those who can't get Obamacare packages, doesn't sounds bad on the uponit7771 Sep 2017 #60

Ummm, anything 'up for a vote' now would be a Repub plan... Wounded Bear Sep 2017 #29

The Russians must be targetting McCaskill's seat next year. Lee Adama Sep 2017 #42

We know Rethug dark money will be flying into that race bronxiteforever Sep 2017 #93

Sanders is just grandstanding. The votes for single payer DO NOT EXIST !!! Trust Buster Sep 2017 #47

So Harris and Warren are also grandstanding then? nt JCanete Sep 2017 #95

Post removed Post removed Sep 2017 #117

Say that about any other KTM Sep 2017 #123

Obviously I disagree with you, and would love for you to present a real world scenario for getting JCanete Sep 2017 #125

But why? Because our health care system is more about social control than, you know, treating people ck4829 Sep 2017 #61

Because no one has shown that it is feasable and that's very unfortunate. Expecting Rain Sep 2017 #78

Feasible all over the world. Voltaire2 Sep 2017 #150

You (all) keep making my point for me. Expecting Rain Sep 2017 #153

You do know that the house and senate bills proposed Voltaire2 Sep 2017 #155

I suppose the use of the modifier "fairly" tells the tale. Expecting Rain Sep 2017 #157

So basically you won't be satisfied that Voltaire2 Sep 2017 #167

No, not "ever changing goal posts." I think many (most?) Americans are increasingly open to... Expecting Rain Sep 2017 #168

As usual, some folks are making this out to be much simpler than it is. stevenleser Sep 2017 #64

AND it stalled in California. Like Jake Tapper said, those are cobalt blue states, and R B Garr Sep 2017 #81

Another issue is that with SP Republicans could dictate what is/isn't covered Proud Liberal Dem Sep 2017 #82

This is exactly why I think the best option is to go with a dual tier option like what the French stevenleser Sep 2017 #115

Okay, it cannot be assumed that things like this stall because they currently just don't work, JCanete Sep 2017 #111

I used to work for a company that provided Medicare services. I can give you one example stevenleser Sep 2017 #114

those definitely sound like things we'd want to take into account, and I appreciate your JCanete Sep 2017 #118

But how can a person of good-will support massive and radical changes... Expecting Rain Sep 2017 #130

she is hypothetically voting no for a hypothetical bill. She's already come down on it on principle JCanete Sep 2017 #135

A responsible Senator can't support massive changes based on hypothetical bills IMO. Expecting Rain Sep 2017 #143

You are correct. sprinkleeninow Sep 2017 #138

She is also considering all those currently employed in the health insurance industry Generic Brad Sep 2017 #163

Sight unseen? She must really fear for her seat. Orsino Sep 2017 #71

Sounds like you are leaving out a LOT of context here, new person. Claire McCaskill is a stalwart... Hekate Sep 2017 #83

No shit Sherlock. GOP controls congress so meaningless vote. bronxiteforever Sep 2017 #87

I have told you...now is not the time. People like the ACA even in red states...not sure that is Demsrule86 Sep 2017 #88

Well she can afford good health insurance so it Doreen Sep 2017 #104

sure an Elizabeth warren or Bernie sanders type could run in Missouri bronxiteforever Sep 2017 #112

This is hugely disappointing workinclasszero Sep 2017 #113

I'm grateful that we have a Democratic Senator in a red state and I trust pnwmom Sep 2017 #116

Just to be clear KTM Sep 2017 #129

Yes, I am. I don't have a problem with politicians who are pro-life personally, like Joe Biden, pnwmom Sep 2017 #136

Thank you KTM Sep 2017 #142

She's in a tough re-election race and single payer is deeply unpopular in Mo. BannonsLiver Sep 2017 #127

You know, we just play into the Rs hands matt819 Sep 2017 #154

Oh, she's disappointed me plenty before now, but she's at risk of standing by herself pretty soon.. WoonTars Sep 2017 #162