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30. That's what i said people need to do

Mon Sep 11, 2017, 11:13 AM

Sep 2017

If they want single payer convince voters to support it. So they either vote for it themselves if it comes up like in colorado or votes for elected officials who support it.

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Senator Claire McCaskill: "if a single-payer came up to a vote right now I would not vote for it" [View all] Pugster Sep 2017 OP

Uh oh Claire. MontanaMama Sep 2017 #1

You can get a pro-single payer progressive elected in Missouri? brooklynite Sep 2017 #11

Hell yeah we could. WinstonSmith00 Sep 2017 #13

Even blue state colorado rejected it by huge numbers JI7 Sep 2017 #31

...and Vermont gave up. brooklynite Sep 2017 #38

Brooklynite and McCaskill are right. You guys are missing the time factor. Hortensis Sep 2017 #96

Exactly! peggysue2 Sep 2017 #109

i replied in another thread clu Sep 2017 #106

I agree with McCaskill. kstewart33 Sep 2017 #110

Time to stop saying "Oh no we can't." Maybe we can and maybe we can't, but KPN Sep 2017 #68

How about observing that, absent single-payer, we CAN elect a Democrat in Missouri? brooklynite Sep 2017 #105

Hmmmmm, isn't buying into Medicarecaid single payer? So its single payer for PEC ... that doesn't uponit7771 Sep 2017 #2

It sounds like she is endorsing a sort of "public option" (like that originally part of Obamacare). PoliticAverse Sep 2017 #5

Right, ... hmmmmm on the face of it letting PeC pay into medicarecade makes sense uponit7771 Sep 2017 #10

Folks may want to read about area51 Sep 2017 #100

Well, you disappointed me. Get a grip, Claire. hatrack Sep 2017 #3

Of course not. Thats the problem with the Party Thrill Sep 2017 #4

Exactly. The right can be on the same page talking point the next day. sarcasmo Sep 2017 #6

Well the right are mindless drones. WinstonSmith00 Sep 2017 #19

I'm for single payer/UHC Proud Liberal Dem Sep 2017 #16

There is no detailed plan for it JI7 Sep 2017 #24

Avoidance of commercial branding specifically for the lowest common denominator is not a problem... LanternWaste Sep 2017 #101

Truth hurts Thrill Sep 2017 #103

BS.No Our Revolution litmus test! melanctha Sep 2017 #140

Scared to stand up for core values, confused about Voltaire2 Sep 2017 #148

It's your messaging that is the problem. Stop dogging democrats!!! melanctha Sep 2017 #165

I'm not imposing anything. Voltaire2 Sep 2017 #166

Mods - please lock. Bashing a Democratic politician. Thanks n/t Fix The Stupid Sep 2017 #7

How is it 'bashing?' Just repeating her statements n/t leftstreet Sep 2017 #8

You have got to be kidding me. theaocp Sep 2017 #9

Hey Fix... Dyedinthewoolliberal Sep 2017 #14

Its not bashing WinstonSmith00 Sep 2017 #15

Quoting her actual words is bashing a Democratic politician? Autumn Sep 2017 #26

Please remember that you said this. NurseJackie Sep 2017 #145

I added it to my journal just in case. Thanks for the tip. Autumn Sep 2017 #156

You're welcome! NurseJackie Sep 2017 #159

If you wish to invoke the Jury system, press the Alert Abuse button at the bottom of the post Hekate Sep 2017 #84

Apt user name pintobean Sep 2017 #160

I really think public option is the way to go. DemocratSinceBirth Sep 2017 #12

Yep and when everybody WinstonSmith00 Sep 2017 #17

Exactly DemocratSinceBirth Sep 2017 #27

It's akin to private vs. public colleges Yavin4 Sep 2017 #70

Right and she's saying PO for people with pre existing conditions, sounds like a win win uponit7771 Sep 2017 #56

They Are HER WORDS.... LovingA2andMI Sep 2017 #18

And that takes no more time than responding in the correct place. LanternWaste Sep 2017 #102

Lol. pintobean Sep 2017 #161

Well there has to be a better plan in place than just the term "single payer"... cbdo2007 Sep 2017 #20

The problem with this quote... TCJ70 Sep 2017 #21

She is from a right wing state. Even voters in colorado rejected it JI7 Sep 2017 #22

How do you get them to support something unless you get out there and convince them? Autumn Sep 2017 #28

That's what i said people need to do JI7 Sep 2017 #30

I think she could help to convince them. She should know why it's a good idea. What happened in CO Autumn Sep 2017 #34

Luckily, people can see through this deception. Why hasn't Bernie convinced Vermont?? R B Garr Sep 2017 #41

You should start a thread about that, someone will rush over and reply. If discussing a Autumn Sep 2017 #44

How ironic! You refuse to discuss why Bernie hasn't convinced Vermont to pay R B Garr Sep 2017 #46

Start an OP about it , whoever is interested will jump in and discuss it. Autumn Sep 2017 #48

Yes, like they are jumping in here to discuss why good elected Democrats are R B Garr Sep 2017 #49

Right. Talking about what she said is targeting her. Autumn Sep 2017 #50

You said she should help convince them. Why not target Bernie with the same smear. R B Garr Sep 2017 #52

I will, as soon as Bernie comes out and says he won't vote for single payer. Autumn Sep 2017 #55

You started out saying she should convince them. Now you change your story R B Garr Sep 2017 #77

We have had dozens of OPs about this in the last several months. stevenleser Sep 2017 #63

Get back to me when Bernie says if single payer come up at this time I won't vote for it. Autumn Sep 2017 #65

I don't even get where this supposed gotcha stems from? Hassin Bin Sober Sep 2017 #75

I know, any comment on an elected Democrats actual words is just like a trigger for some people. Autumn Sep 2017 #85

Luckily, people see through this deception and double standards. R B Garr Sep 2017 #90

You said she should convince people about single payer, yet Bernie hasn't R B Garr Sep 2017 #80

You can't say he and John Conyers havn't tried. I give both mad props for their tireless efforts on Autumn Sep 2017 #89

I give mad props to CA Assemblyman Rendon, who is the subject of a bogus "recall" R B Garr Sep 2017 #91

We lost 2 fine Democrats here in CO because they voted for gun control, that sucked but Autumn Sep 2017 #98

Wrong, the "many people" you claim are really Bernie fans outside Rendon's district. R B Garr Sep 2017 #99

Say what? Autumn Sep 2017 #119

Yeah, Say What is right! Trying to remove a Democrat over some pet issues R B Garr Sep 2017 #122

I don't live in CA, I have no say on what they do with their Reps or their pet issues . That's what. Autumn Sep 2017 #124

Then that's a good reason not to attack Senator McCaskill for representing her state. R B Garr Sep 2017 #126

Link to where I attacked Senator McCaskill. I'll wait right here for that link. Autumn Sep 2017 #128

Your cynicism about her not explaining single payer was obvious, although R B Garr Sep 2017 #131

Link to where I attacked Senator McCaskill like you said I did. I'll wait right here for that link. Autumn Sep 2017 #132

LOL, yes, I'm sure your comments about Senator McCaskill were because you fully R B Garr Sep 2017 #133

Link to where I attacked Senator McCaskill. I'll wait right here for that link. Autumn Sep 2017 #134

You said she should "convince people" to support single payer. R B Garr Sep 2017 #137

Link to where I attacked Senator McCaskill. A link should be easy to find. Autumn Sep 2017 #139

I guess you think this is clever or supports your claim that you were just R B Garr Sep 2017 #141

So there is no link to an attack by me on Senator McCaskill is what you are admitting. Autumn Sep 2017 #144

Explain how your comment that she should "convince people" was not R B Garr Sep 2017 #146

Last time. There is no link to my criticizing her because I didn't criticize her as you claimed. Autumn Sep 2017 #151

LOL, it's like it doesn't matter her actual position, R B Garr Sep 2017 #152

It's not just Bernie's position. It's also the position of Senators Booker,Gillibrand. Harris, Autumn Sep 2017 #164

LOL, like there is no history to it that people are R B Garr Sep 2017 #169

This thing you do KTM Sep 2017 #147

LOL, that is hilarious, as I have not seen any comments from you about the threads R B Garr Sep 2017 #149

This message was self-deleted by its author Autumn Sep 2017 #158

Well one way to help is have your kid stroll out of her $10 million dollar condo and... Hassin Bin Sober Sep 2017 #92

The needs of the people will not be met until the people bend the politicians to their will. Autumn Sep 2017 #97

How does that work? moda253 Sep 2017 #108

Huh? Autumn Sep 2017 #121

Wow. That's hypocritical moda253 Sep 2017 #107

What's that now? Autumn Sep 2017 #120

Not in missouri where the republicans voted against funds for harvey JI7 Sep 2017 #76

This is what they did with the push in CO Autumn Sep 2017 #39

Why hasn't Bernie convinced them to pay for it in Vermont? R B Garr Sep 2017 #43

Bernie should take this advice and convince Vermont to support it, costs R B Garr Sep 2017 #32

Not even worthy of a reply. Autumn Sep 2017 #35

Of course not. R B Garr Sep 2017 #36

Sure, it is worthy of a reply. Expecting Rain Sep 2017 #37

I posted about it , look for it in the thread or research what happened here in CO . Bye. Autumn Sep 2017 #40

Why hasn't Bernie convinced Vermont to pay for it?? R B Garr Sep 2017 #45

So that you discussed it proves the lie that such a question in't worth a reply is a lie. Expecting Rain Sep 2017 #51

You want to discuss Bernie, Vermont and single payer start an OP about it. Autumn Sep 2017 #53

Thanks for admitting that single payer is just a "pet subject". That's the point, it's R B Garr Sep 2017 #54

You haven't discussed Claire and single payer so I can only assume that your pet subject is Autumn Sep 2017 #59

Not convincing. This just looks like a diversion from a pet subject featured in R B Garr Sep 2017 #66

Wow, how awful. I had no idea. You should start an OP about that. Autumn Sep 2017 #69

Not convincing. This is an OP about a good elected Democrat being targeted R B Garr Sep 2017 #72

You criticized her for not going out an convincing the public that single payer... Expecting Rain Sep 2017 #67

And she announced support for a public option for those with only one option under the ACA. Expecting Rain Sep 2017 #57

Where did I attack Claire? Link please. Autumn Sep 2017 #62

........... disillusioned73 Sep 2017 #73

alert mod ban clu Sep 2017 #86

She supports a public option... Expecting Rain Sep 2017 #23

It's truly absurd. It's obviously being used as a phony litmus test and R B Garr Sep 2017 #33

+1 uponit7771 Sep 2017 #58

She shuts the door on any single-payer, without asking for details? Orsino Sep 2017 #74

We keep waiting for the details. Expecting Rain Sep 2017 #79

But if something like single payer came up for a fucking vote why would you be this certain ahead of JCanete Sep 2017 #94

So if the only 2 choices are Trumpcare or Subgle Payer? Not Ruth Sep 2017 #25

Sounds like single payer for those who can't get Obamacare packages, doesn't sounds bad on the uponit7771 Sep 2017 #60

Ummm, anything 'up for a vote' now would be a Repub plan... Wounded Bear Sep 2017 #29

The Russians must be targetting McCaskill's seat next year. Lee Adama Sep 2017 #42

We know Rethug dark money will be flying into that race bronxiteforever Sep 2017 #93

Sanders is just grandstanding. The votes for single payer DO NOT EXIST !!! Trust Buster Sep 2017 #47

So Harris and Warren are also grandstanding then? nt JCanete Sep 2017 #95

Post removed Post removed Sep 2017 #117

Say that about any other KTM Sep 2017 #123

Obviously I disagree with you, and would love for you to present a real world scenario for getting JCanete Sep 2017 #125

But why? Because our health care system is more about social control than, you know, treating people ck4829 Sep 2017 #61

Because no one has shown that it is feasable and that's very unfortunate. Expecting Rain Sep 2017 #78

Feasible all over the world. Voltaire2 Sep 2017 #150

You (all) keep making my point for me. Expecting Rain Sep 2017 #153

You do know that the house and senate bills proposed Voltaire2 Sep 2017 #155

I suppose the use of the modifier "fairly" tells the tale. Expecting Rain Sep 2017 #157

So basically you won't be satisfied that Voltaire2 Sep 2017 #167

No, not "ever changing goal posts." I think many (most?) Americans are increasingly open to... Expecting Rain Sep 2017 #168

As usual, some folks are making this out to be much simpler than it is. stevenleser Sep 2017 #64

AND it stalled in California. Like Jake Tapper said, those are cobalt blue states, and R B Garr Sep 2017 #81

Another issue is that with SP Republicans could dictate what is/isn't covered Proud Liberal Dem Sep 2017 #82

This is exactly why I think the best option is to go with a dual tier option like what the French stevenleser Sep 2017 #115

Okay, it cannot be assumed that things like this stall because they currently just don't work, JCanete Sep 2017 #111

I used to work for a company that provided Medicare services. I can give you one example stevenleser Sep 2017 #114

those definitely sound like things we'd want to take into account, and I appreciate your JCanete Sep 2017 #118

But how can a person of good-will support massive and radical changes... Expecting Rain Sep 2017 #130

she is hypothetically voting no for a hypothetical bill. She's already come down on it on principle JCanete Sep 2017 #135

A responsible Senator can't support massive changes based on hypothetical bills IMO. Expecting Rain Sep 2017 #143

You are correct. sprinkleeninow Sep 2017 #138

She is also considering all those currently employed in the health insurance industry Generic Brad Sep 2017 #163

Sight unseen? She must really fear for her seat. Orsino Sep 2017 #71

Sounds like you are leaving out a LOT of context here, new person. Claire McCaskill is a stalwart... Hekate Sep 2017 #83

No shit Sherlock. GOP controls congress so meaningless vote. bronxiteforever Sep 2017 #87

I have told you...now is not the time. People like the ACA even in red states...not sure that is Demsrule86 Sep 2017 #88

Well she can afford good health insurance so it Doreen Sep 2017 #104

sure an Elizabeth warren or Bernie sanders type could run in Missouri bronxiteforever Sep 2017 #112

This is hugely disappointing workinclasszero Sep 2017 #113

I'm grateful that we have a Democratic Senator in a red state and I trust pnwmom Sep 2017 #116

Just to be clear KTM Sep 2017 #129

Yes, I am. I don't have a problem with politicians who are pro-life personally, like Joe Biden, pnwmom Sep 2017 #136

Thank you KTM Sep 2017 #142

She's in a tough re-election race and single payer is deeply unpopular in Mo. BannonsLiver Sep 2017 #127

You know, we just play into the Rs hands matt819 Sep 2017 #154

Oh, she's disappointed me plenty before now, but she's at risk of standing by herself pretty soon.. WoonTars Sep 2017 #162