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In reply to the discussion: Obama's Record On Job Creation Is 157,143 Per Month Since 4/2010, - better than any Republican- [View all]progree
(12,860 posts)On total (not just private sector) payroll jobs since 9/2010, I get 3,844,000 over 28 months = 137,286 per month, not your OP headline's 157,143 (which is close to the private sector's job creation number of 4,372,000 over 28 months = 156,143 per month. See my post #33. Must compare apples to apples).
Though there is another point of confusion: In your OP, you say 157,143/month since 9/2010.
In your #31, when questioned on the 157,143 number, you say 4,400,000 private sector jobs divided by 28 months is 157,142.85. (Me: actually 4,372,000 private sector jobs divided by 28 months = 156,143)
Well, going back from June 2012, 28 months takes us back to February 2010, not September 2010. (February 2010 is the month with the lowest payroll jobs in the Bush-Obama recession. September 2010 is the last month that there were job losses).
Anyway, I'm using your number ( http://bureaucountydems.blogspot.com/2012/07/president-obama-record-on-job-creation.html )
for Reagan's first term of 109,000 per month
Reagan 1st term: 109,000 jobs/mo. Payroll jobs at beginning of his term: 90.9 M.
. . Scaled: 119,912 jobs/mo created per 100 million jobs. Which is a 0.1199%/month job increase record.
Obama 3/1/10 - 6/30/12: 3,844,000 / 28 mo. = 137,286 jobs/mo. Payroll jobs at beginning of his term: 133.6 M.
. . Scaled: 102,759 jobs/mo created per 100 million jobs. Which is a 0.1028%/month job increase record.
So Reagan in his first term has a slightly better job creation record per 100 million jobs (119,912) than does Obama in his latest 28 months (102,759).
Is that what you are trying to hide?
Not to mention Reagan's 2nd term of 226,400 jobs/mo (which I calculate from your data of 109,000 jobs/mo in the first term and 167,708 both terms combined). Which when scaled, comes to 249,000 jobs/mo per 100 million jobs.
Though redoing Obama for the last 21 months, your "since 9/2010" (rather than the last 28 months), produces a better result:
Obama 10/1/10 - 6/30/12: 3,203 M jobs / 21 months = 152,524 jobs/mo. Payroll jobs at beginning of his term: 133.6 M.
. . Scaled: 114,165 jobs/mo created per 100 million jobs. Which is a 0.1142%/month job increase record.
(Still below (though slightly) Reagan's first term record of 119,912 jobs/mo per 100 million jobs)
You are right that Democratic administrations job creation records are overall vastly superior overall to Republicans. But cooking the numbers to score a 100% grand slam perfect record -- e.g. showing that Obama is a bigger job creator than the best Republican job creator (Reagan) -- detracts from that message, as several people in this thread have commented.
Just for the fun of it, I put the presidents in chronological order, color coded in blue for Dems and red for RepubliCONs. Which also amply illustrates your point about comparing the presidencies pairwise always showing the Dems having the advantage every time.
Jobs created per month
[div style="display:inline; font-size:1.07em; font-family:monospace; white-space:pre;"][font color=blue]Truman +86,500[/font]
[div style="display:inline; font-size:1.07em; font-family:monospace; white-space:pre;"][font color=red ]Eisenhower +36,458[/font]
[div style="display:inline; font-size:1.07em; font-family:monospace; white-space:pre;"][font color=blue]Kennedy +100,000[/font]
[div style="display:inline; font-size:1.07em; font-family:monospace; white-space:pre;"][font color=blue]Johnson +191,666[/font]
[div style="display:inline; font-size:1.07em; font-family:monospace; white-space:pre;"][font color=red ]Nixon +117,708 [/font]
[div style="display:inline; font-size:1.07em; font-family:monospace; white-space:pre;"][font color=blue]Carter +216,666 [/font]
[div style="display:inline; font-size:1.07em; font-family:monospace; white-space:pre;"][font color=red ]Reagan +167,708[/font]
[div style="display:inline; font-size:1.07em; font-family:monospace; white-space:pre;"][font color=red ]G. H. Bush +52,000[/font]
[div style="display:inline; font-size:1.07em; font-family:monospace; white-space:pre;"][font color=blue]Clinton +241,666[/font]
[div style="display:inline; font-size:1.07em; font-family:monospace; white-space:pre;"][font color=red ]G. W. Bush +19,895[/font]